Lateral jump to Republic
01-05-2016, 02:35 PM
#31
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Position: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
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Before you make the move, find a Republic Pilot (in person, at the airport) and ask them about how often Republic opens and closes bases. I have a friend that went from STL to GRR to PIT in just a matter of a few years. PIT has only been a base for Republic for a few years.
01-05-2016, 02:38 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 196
Pittsburgh has been a base since long before I got here and I've been here awhile. RAH has been great for me. You'll read lots of bs on these forums written by very immature people with limited work experience and poor educations so take them with a shaker of salt. If you want to be in Pitt then RAH would be a good choice. I'm starting to aggressively pursue the jobs I want but I've enjoyed my time here and most of the people I fly with. Lots of good people in the Pittsburgh base at this company. Good luck.
Thanks!
01-05-2016, 02:41 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: NB CA
Posts: 451
Well, in that case, stretching and curbing the truth on APC to make the company you represent, as a pilot recruiter, sound better to new hires than it actually is just so that you can meet your hiring number goals each month is both dishonest and disheartening. So regardless IF I choose to move on or stay here, it will be a decision based upon many factors, but it will not be based upon the frustrated response of an admitted pilot recruiter who doesn't like that fact that I exposed (with truth and honesty) the lies used to further their goal. But anyway no hard feelings and best of luck to you!
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01-05-2016, 02:48 PM
#34
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Posts: 39
Now you are pulling teeth. It seems like you just want to ignore what the $22K/yr retention does. Did I say hourly rate?
It's part of the pilots pay, plain and simple. It is a direct $22K/yr increase in their salary, every year. Simple.
Your experience means nothing to what the new hires will see. You went through an economic downturn and age 65. Without that take 5-10 years off what you saw.
When did I say Endeavor had a flow. Wow, just go back and read that the pilots who PASSED the SSP are effectively flow pilots, which is true.
You seem jaded to the fact you are ignoring Endeavor's true situation. I have no ties to Endeavor mind you
You don't seem to understand taxes. Even if the IRS withheld 100%, it would still be rectified when you did your taxes. The retro pay is taxed the same as you regular pay in the end.
It's part of the pilots pay, plain and simple. It is a direct $22K/yr increase in their salary, every year. Simple.
Your experience means nothing to what the new hires will see. You went through an economic downturn and age 65. Without that take 5-10 years off what you saw.
When did I say Endeavor had a flow. Wow, just go back and read that the pilots who PASSED the SSP are effectively flow pilots, which is true.
You seem jaded to the fact you are ignoring Endeavor's true situation. I have no ties to Endeavor mind you
You don't seem to understand taxes. Even if the IRS withheld 100%, it would still be rectified when you did your taxes. The retro pay is taxed the same as you regular pay in the end.
Yes and I said that. You may get some back of the "federal" portion (the 25%) depending upon your tax bracket. You also may owe more (although not likely with the wages). You may also get back a little of the state withholdings based upon the same principle once you file your taxes, but initially ABOUT 40% is withheld. What you will not get back is the portion withheld by Social Security withholding 7.5%, Alpa 2%, or the percentage that falls within your tax bracket for federal and state (typically 15-25%). I don't get what is so hard to understand about the 40% number. 40% is NOT an exact number. it could be 35%. it could be 45%. It could be something difference based upon tax brackets once you file your taxes. However, the Feds do withhold 25% initially. regardless of the withholding on the bonuses, what is far worse is the morale of the over 40% of our pilots who interviewed in guaranteed interview, offered by delta, who were told "NO" and then come back to fly at Endeavor. The withholding of the bonus is small fries compared to the major issue of company morale regarding the failed guaranteed interviews
01-05-2016, 02:53 PM
#35
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Position: Reclined seat
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That's still not a flow. You contradict yourself by saying you never said that they have a flow, but then you say a CONDITIONAL JOB OFFER is a flow. I hate to break it to you, but it's not. It's a CJO. Saying it's a flow, is like saying that anyone that gets hired anywhere is a flow.
01-05-2016, 03:01 PM
#36
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Posts: 2,305
Please re-read my post:
Yes and I said that. You may get some back of the "federal" portion (the 25%) depending upon your tax bracket. You also may owe more (although not likely with the wages). You may also get back a little of the state withholdings based upon the same principle once you file your taxes, but initially ABOUT 40% is withheld. What you will not get back is the portion withheld by Social Security withholding 7.5%, Alpa 2%, or the percentage that falls within your tax bracket for federal and state (typically 15-25%). I don't get what is so hard to understand about the 40% number. 40% is NOT an exact number. it could be 35%. it could be 45%. It could be something difference based upon tax brackets once you file your taxes. However, the Feds do withhold 25% initially. regardless of the withholding on the bonuses, what is far worse is the morale of the over 40% of our pilots who interviewed in guaranteed interview, offered by delta, who were told "NO" and then come back to fly at Endeavor. The withholding of the bonus is small fries compared to the major issue of company morale regarding the failed guaranteed interviews
Yes and I said that. You may get some back of the "federal" portion (the 25%) depending upon your tax bracket. You also may owe more (although not likely with the wages). You may also get back a little of the state withholdings based upon the same principle once you file your taxes, but initially ABOUT 40% is withheld. What you will not get back is the portion withheld by Social Security withholding 7.5%, Alpa 2%, or the percentage that falls within your tax bracket for federal and state (typically 15-25%). I don't get what is so hard to understand about the 40% number. 40% is NOT an exact number. it could be 35%. it could be 45%. It could be something difference based upon tax brackets once you file your taxes. However, the Feds do withhold 25% initially. regardless of the withholding on the bonuses, what is far worse is the morale of the over 40% of our pilots who interviewed in guaranteed interview, offered by delta, who were told "NO" and then come back to fly at Endeavor. The withholding of the bonus is small fries compared to the major issue of company morale regarding the failed guaranteed interviews
01-05-2016, 03:08 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Please re-read my post:
Yes and I said that. You may get some back of the "federal" portion (the 25%) depending upon your tax bracket. You also may owe more (although not likely with the wages). You may also get back a little of the state withholdings based upon the same principle once you file your taxes, but initially ABOUT 40% is withheld. What you will not get back is the portion withheld by Social Security withholding 7.5%, Alpa 2%, or the percentage that falls within your tax bracket for federal and state (typically 15-25%). I don't get what is so hard to understand about the 40% number. 40% is NOT an exact number. it could be 35%. it could be 45%. It could be something difference based upon tax brackets once you file your taxes. However, the Feds do withhold 25% initially. regardless of the withholding on the bonuses, what is far worse is the morale of the over 40% of our pilots who interviewed in guaranteed interview, offered by delta, who were told "NO" and then come back to fly at Endeavor. The withholding of the bonus is small fries compared to the major issue of company morale regarding the failed guaranteed interviews
Yes and I said that. You may get some back of the "federal" portion (the 25%) depending upon your tax bracket. You also may owe more (although not likely with the wages). You may also get back a little of the state withholdings based upon the same principle once you file your taxes, but initially ABOUT 40% is withheld. What you will not get back is the portion withheld by Social Security withholding 7.5%, Alpa 2%, or the percentage that falls within your tax bracket for federal and state (typically 15-25%). I don't get what is so hard to understand about the 40% number. 40% is NOT an exact number. it could be 35%. it could be 45%. It could be something difference based upon tax brackets once you file your taxes. However, the Feds do withhold 25% initially. regardless of the withholding on the bonuses, what is far worse is the morale of the over 40% of our pilots who interviewed in guaranteed interview, offered by delta, who were told "NO" and then come back to fly at Endeavor. The withholding of the bonus is small fries compared to the major issue of company morale regarding the failed guaranteed interviews
01-05-2016, 03:29 PM
#38
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 519
I seem to recall you were trolling several regional threads just recently, trying to get people to come to Endeavor in an attempt to get the signing bonus. But now you are telling us you are trying to jump ship as an 8-yr FO? Sounds like you can't quite make up your mind whether you want bonuses or to start over at the bottom somewhere.
01-05-2016, 03:37 PM
#39
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1.Skywest/Endeavor ....hands down take the top slots and the reason it's a tie is depending on where you live. Skywest for west coast and endeavor for east coast
2. Air-Wisconsin-great contract good work rules great guys
3. Compass -good contract and work rules slowing upgrade and no news of growing fleet....yet..also bunch of younger great guys to hangout with for 4 days
4. Expressjet- Awesome contract some cool things in there to really capitalize on making money but you have to work the contract and awesome awesome guys who will stick there neck out for you!
5. Commute air new equipment and upgrade dropping
6. Envoy
Slow upgrade but good contract and flow more of your southern crowd great guys always willing to help
7. PSA
Flow not sure the upgrade time now...but it was quick
8. Republic
Good pay not sure the rules but most aren't happy with the work rules and all
9. Mesa
Low pay crappy work rules a greedy CEO good guys there upgrade isn't to long mix of west and east coast bases
10. gojets
Sad work rules some good guy there but low pay and moral
That's about all I have and its my opinion. Chime in if you feel different trying to put it straight for the new ones coming in
2. Air-Wisconsin-great contract good work rules great guys
3. Compass -good contract and work rules slowing upgrade and no news of growing fleet....yet..also bunch of younger great guys to hangout with for 4 days
4. Expressjet- Awesome contract some cool things in there to really capitalize on making money but you have to work the contract and awesome awesome guys who will stick there neck out for you!
5. Commute air new equipment and upgrade dropping
6. Envoy
Slow upgrade but good contract and flow more of your southern crowd great guys always willing to help
7. PSA
Flow not sure the upgrade time now...but it was quick
8. Republic
Good pay not sure the rules but most aren't happy with the work rules and all
9. Mesa
Low pay crappy work rules a greedy CEO good guys there upgrade isn't to long mix of west and east coast bases
10. gojets
Sad work rules some good guy there but low pay and moral
That's about all I have and its my opinion. Chime in if you feel different trying to put it straight for the new ones coming in
01-05-2016, 03:48 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,305
That's still not a flow. You contradict yourself by saying you never said that they have a flow, but then you say a CONDITIONAL JOB OFFER is a flow. I hate to break it to you, but it's not. It's a CJO. Saying it's a flow, is like saying that anyone that gets hired anywhere is a flow.
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