TillerEnvy

I don't buy it. Never heard it. Maybe ES does it do he can get positive space flights to/from MCO.


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Rahlifer

Do you not remember the memo for the aircraft cleaning party about a year ago or so? There were quite a few pilots that volunteered to help out.

Loon

Holy cow, your response to that was awesome. Funny, funny.
That's SAADDDD if there actually are kool-aid drinkers cleaning planes for free.
Also, as far as captains picking up F.O. trips, other than calling crew sked and asking I'm not sure how they can do it. Flica won't let you see the f.o. stuff.
What a bunch of losers if they are picking up O.T, btw.

Loon

Just look at pictures of the company party on fb; I'm sure you can see some of the said ball licking in the background.

sqwkvfr

Absolutely.

RAH needs to ditch these outstations and open bases in hub cities where it doesn't snow and/or are west of the Mississippi.

Even if this TA brings the best terms in the regional industry, RAH's base structure and philosophy would still make them one of the least desirable regionals. The schedules would continue to be just as horrible and new hires and fresh upgrades would still have to face the unpalatable notion of moving to places like CMH, SDF, PIT, IND, and MCI.

thump

IMHO, they consider it a key to success. All the people in those bases are VERY hesitant to move on because they are home-based. When the name of the game is employee retention, those bases have some of the lowest turnover.

Loon

Those are very true words. Take PIT and SDF(not to mention IND and CMH), the CA's at these bases are pretty content. Just look at the seniority. I think the majority of people that hate out-stations are commuters.

Hetman

Once, I wrote up an airplane for the filthy condition of the interior. The first entry was "Aircraft requires thorough interior cleaning; not presentable to customers."

I followed that with three pages of specific individual entries such as " 1/4 inch of gray-green crud between seat cushions, all rows," and "Lav smells like nasty gas station mens' room, all surfaces require complete cleaning," and "carpet color obscured by long term ground in food spills, requires shampoo"

Thing is, if it is in the book, it has to be addressed. I got a "what the hell" call from Bart and gave him "what the hell" right back. Had a big delay but left late with a clean airplane.


And since I was not willing to pay the company's phone bills, Bart had to reach me on the crewroom phone.

You can't control the actions of others. You can control your own.

sqwkvfr

Yup, but when you need to get people through the door and you are recruiting from a nationwide pool of pilots, the simple fact is that no one wants to move to any of these outstations. WH told me (before he was fired) that the company was fully aware that their base structure is hindering their ability to attract new hires. Couple that with the terrible schedules that outstations produce and I think that the company has a problem that it is going to need to tackle eventually. Also, as someone else said earlier, a lot of the "lifers" have recently become active job searchers.

Regardless, I don't think that QOL is a primary reason for the company's use of large outstations. Anyone close to the crew planning process has told me that they company saves "a ton of money on hotels" by doing it this way. In other words, they do it to save a buck, not preserve anyone's QOL.

slumav505

They also do it on an outdated way of thinking about crew usage and efficiency. They block per day numbers look better from the out stations because every trip they do has to get them in the system that makes it worth more than a hub trip does.