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Old 05-29-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
If one lives in phx or LA. They're all the same. All the folks here who claim otherwise are just fools.
Mesa (in 2013 and 2014) is 1000x better than Pinnacle/Endeavor.

I have flown for both companies for long enough to know.

Everything can always change, but I am much, much happier here than I was at Endeavor, even with a tougher commute. The roughly 10-15 Endeavor pilots I know here all seem to agree that this was a good move.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by slumav505
first rule about upgrade, don't chase quick upgrades. the only way you can upgrade that fast is if they can hire someone to replace you. that well will dry up quickly for them as well unless their pay can start sucking people away from others.
Probably not for a while, now that people can hold PHX (and soon to be LAX) within a month or two of hitting the line.

Sorry it's just true--lots of people come here solely for the possibility of a west coast base. The combination of growth (that isn't happening at Skywest/Eagle) and having West Coast bases//no 50 seaters to cut--all that adds up to full new hire classes.
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
False, it is not being offered to new hires.
That really blows and that would be a discounting figure for me if I were job searching. Although expensive, the plan is really second to none. This is just a further step in America's downward spiral by not offering this plan to new hires. I would not consider this place for employment.
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
Bedford is leaving. This place is done.
I hope you're right; I would love nothing more than to see the demise of those thieves at the ibt357; btw, do we get our assessment back from the "war chest" when they fold or will that be footing the bill for more vacations?
How are""negotiations" going anyhow? I'm sure our new NC is very very busy
Oh, just checked ultipro, there goes another 15 bucks. So much for johnnies newpair of shoes.

Note: thevagabond, these q's are not aimed at you, I'm just using your post as a segway for my contempt for this "union" and all the stealing that they are doing.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by slumav505
Our legacy health plan is expensive but if you have kids or a spouse that has any sort of health needs it pays for itself.
....and your 75 hour bi-weekly paycheck, not including per diem, will be $425.

Yes, $425.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
Bedford is leaving. This place is done.
Bedford very well could be leaving. His recent letter to employees touting the "virtue of obedience" read like the ramblings of a self-important megalomaniac in the late stages of his reign lashing out at what he sees as his mutinous minions.

However, I don't see RAH surviving without a change in leadership. Bedford and Heller, et al, have done irrepairable damage to the relationship with their most important labor groups.

The company's constant focus on union busting and erosion of QoL and pay has fostered a toxic environment of deep mistrust that will make signing a contract with it's pilots impossible until current leadership is replaced.

Bedford leaving would be a very good thing.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Loon
Oh, just checked ultipro, there goes another 15 bucks. So much for johnnies newpair of shoes.
I realize that you're being facetious, but anyone on 7+ year captain pay carping about being unable to afford a new pair of shoes for "johnnie" because he is actually required to pay for his union representation (perish the thought) has problems beyond those outlined in your post.

Your type of seemingly superfluous, unfair, and ignorant derision toward our union representation is becoming tiring. Your little mini-rant is the exact same thing that I hear from those that I work with who are angry just to be angry and the negative points you cite resonate only with the impaired.

You're making yourself look like, well, a loon.
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
I realize that you're being facetious, but anyone on 7+ year captain pay that can't afford a new pair of shoes for "johnnie" because they are actually required to pay for their union representation (perish the thought) has problems beyond those outlined in your post.

Your type of seemingly superfluous, unfair, and ignorant derision toward our union representation is becoming tiring. Your little mini-rant against the union is the exact same thing that I hear from those that I work with who are angry just to be angry and the negative points you cite resonate only with the impaired.

You're making yourself look like, well, a loon.
You don't agree with my points, so you attempt to discredit me with charges of lunacy? Sounds like it's right out of the union playbook. I do no "company cheerleading", I just wanna know: how are our "negotiations" going?
Just because you don't parallel my views, don't slander me; because that is EXACTLY your futile attempt.
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
I realize that you're being facetious, but anyone on 7+ year captain pay carping about being unable to afford a new pair of shoes for "johnnie" because he is actually required to pay for his union representation (perish the thought) has problems beyond those outlined in your post.

Your type of seemingly superfluous, unfair, and ignorant derision toward our union representation is becoming tiring. Your little mini-rant is the exact same thing that I hear from those that I work with who are angry just to be angry and the negative points you cite resonate only with the impaired.

You're making yourself look like, well, a loon.
Hey pal, my union "representatives" have done SQUAT with my grievance(s) to get me my money back, yet they continue to take their assessment. Stop your UNION cheerleading!
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr
I realize that you're being facetious, but anyone on 7+ year captain pay carping about being unable to afford a new pair of shoes for "johnnie" because he is actually required to pay for his union representation (perish the thought) has problems beyond those outlined in your post.

Your type of seemingly superfluous, unfair, and ignorant derision toward our union representation is becoming tiring. Your little mini-rant is the exact same thing that I hear from those that I work with who are angry just to be angry and the negative points you cite resonate only with the impaired.

You're making yourself look like, well, a loon.
Hey pal, my union "representatives" have done SQUAT with my grievance(s) to get me my money back, yet they continue to take their assessment. Stop your UNION cheerleading!
And you stop bending over for BB and this company.
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