labbats

On the contrary I think it is your train of thought that got you where you are. If you had 100% solidarity do you think it would be a 7 year lag on getting a TA? People complain about unions and such but without at least a strong vocal majority then there is no pressure to fix things for the better in management's eyes... and I don't blame them for that. Why add money to the pilot ranks when you have some of them that are happy where they are? You all need to get fed up and say as much to management instead of backpedaling and telling one another that you don't deserve to be compensated less than a city bus driver.

Sorry but after poking around the regional forums for a bit I'm immediately taken back to my years there and the captains that tell how great they have it (by comparing it to some junk 135 cargo outfit they used to work for instead of looking at what it should be) while you try and figure out how to pay your bills for the month. Congratulations to the 85% that saw things for what they really are.

BenS

You allow the flight to go, but don't allow them to get away with it? A real ASAP smackdown you give them, eh? Of your listed things they complain about, are they not reasons to complain? Or do you happily take delays on go home day? Enjoy walking to the crash pad in the snow for no pay? They may be wrong to not write a "broken" airplane up, but you object to them being upset for those reasons? I don't, I'd be upset too...

You can't drive the getaway car, then claim you didn't take part in the robbery. Your complacency to allow the flight to depart means you have as much disregard for safety as you accuse your captain of.

You just admitted you don't.

As previously mentioned in this thread, "safety strikes" only work when there is 100% participation. At the regional level, there simply never is. Anyone here try to commute on mainline during a safety strike? Miserable. Its just never the same at the regional level and I don't know why.

I have to disagree with the first part completely. Management has stalled 7 years on this thing and I doubt one of the 15% yes voters saying "we set our sights too high" is encouraging BB to wait more. Besides, this is a forum that should be open to all input, even if Bedford himself were on here posting his thoughts. I just disagree that management is encouraged by anything they read here.

Second, I agree the TA was like Swiss cheese. All kinds of "gains" but absolutely no requirement to use any of them. However, there are those who would say Rome wasn't built in a day. Take adding things to the contract now, and if the company abuses their promises to us, we then can add requirements in the next round.

I find it funny you come into this thread as a other airline pilot who stands to gain or lose nothing based on our vote. You tell us what you think as if we should respect your input, which I do, but then when asked to respect those who disagree you say "I don't respect that". I guess I feel you destroyed your own credibility by being like that. Why, then, is your input owed any respect? On the assumption that you're right and others are wrong?

Loon

I really see what you are saying. The thing is though, that this isn't the majors. As my CEO tells us: this(airline, RAH) is just a bump in the road in our careers.

magnus0322

That's exactly what I wrote. We take a delay for mtx to rectify the issue. If they can't, we get cancelled and lose pay. Doesn't matter if it is go home day or not. Reading comprehension?

magnus0322

Reading comprehension. That plane will not depart. If the CA doesn't like it he/she can call scheduling to get a new FO. Oh right, we're kinda short on those. I know it sucks to get ****ed on go home day. But until people don't start flying safe and doing only their jobs things won't change around here. Why would they? This pilot group consistently returns the highest on time performance out of all the regionals. Tell me that's because people are so happy here. It's pilot pushing and it's status quo around here. They can shove their FDP extension memo up their ass.

Loon

Nice back-tracking. So where does the ASAP form come in? Exactly. Nice try lao che

magnus0322

Back tracking? Gary shut the **** up. I said that I don't care if we take delays. Get cancelled. Get stuck at the base without a hotel. Obviously that means that flight does not depart with mtx issues. You're just a troll. Indy lifer. RAH will be bankrupt in less than 5 years at the current rate. They cannot attract FOs with their horrible contract. So be it. Park every plane.

Asap comes in because it's a safety issue that so many CAs like you bend over for the company. Pilot pushing. It's sad when the company doesn't even need to pressure the FOs to fly because people like you do their job for them.

rdneckpilot

Don't work for a regional airline. Worked great for me. There are lots of jobs in this industry that do not involve large pilot groups, a board of directors and unions.

Loon

I'm wondering why you file ASAP reports for something you write up BEFORE you block out? You know that we have busted you and now you are trying to save face.
Yes, I write stuff up; anything that should be. Forgive me, however, for wanting my company to do well and for my pax to make it to their destination.

magnus0322

Your reading comprehension sucks. There is no saving face or anything of the sort. Ridiculous. I hope we fly together soon.