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04-19-2014, 04:58 PM
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Hey I am not trying to come across standoffish or spoiled, it's just that I have come across the money that I will not have debt. Through much research I picked a school that is considered by others not me to be a "pilot mill" and I intend to get the best out of it and become a safe and smart pilot. I have been trying to get as much insight about the career as possible.
Bzzt: I didn't know how old you were but I hope that everything works out and that you and your family are as happy as possible. It sucks aviation had to become a regret for you
Bzzt: I didn't know how old you were but I hope that everything works out and that you and your family are as happy as possible. It sucks aviation had to become a regret for you
04-19-2014, 05:17 PM
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2) If you would READ, you would be able to see what my comment is about. He's on here complaining and telling people that he has ZERO percent chance of getting hired outside the regionals, and that he hates it so much he's going to quit in three years. Just quit now, what are you waiting for? Once again... one less to compete with (maybe you'll get it this time). You can go quit, too.
04-19-2014, 05:23 PM
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Well luckily for me both college and flight school will be completely funded for me so I will have 0 debt. The pilot mill will get me my ratings and hours faster than a local FBO. I am not trying to be spoiled here but that is what I have been blessed with. So would it be that bad with 0 debt starting an airline career around 24-25?
04-19-2014, 05:26 PM
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So Bedrock, do you think with my situation, starting at practically the youngest age I can hopefully being at a regional by 24, is alright for this industry? Someone has to fly RJs for the future of aviation, of course who wouldn't love to be at a major before 30? I will do everything in my power to get to a major asap, hopefully the industry is on a so called uprise and that may be possible, but I am going in open minded about worse cases, stuck as regional FO for 5-10 years or at the regional permanently.
It is simply putting the cart before the horse to even worry about which regional you are going to fly for in 3 yrs or so. This industry can turn on a dime. Never burn bridges in this industry as it is surprisingly small, do your level best, print up some cards, and make lots of friends. Work your butt off and try hard to have a fall back for another 9-11 type event.
In the early 2000's we had a perfect storm of black swan events that changed commercial aviation for the worse. 9-11, economic downturn, dot-com bust, bird-flu, airline bankruptcies, age 65 rule, rise of regional jets. This changed the industry for 10+ years. You have to be flexible in this industry. How much are you willing to give up?
I met a guy with a "dream job". Flying heavies overseas for good pay. He is 52, no wife or family, and spends his time with paid companions in Dubai. Flying for a living is a hard life.
04-19-2014, 05:26 PM
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You'll have to forgive the peanut gallery on here, most are pretty disgruntled for one reason or another, and some justifiably so.
All that said, if you want to fly, go for it, with a couple of caveats:
- If you're going to a "pilot mill" that's demanding 100% up front, DON'T. Not saying that it would happen to you, but some people have lot a lot of mooney this way.
- The best thing you can do right now is go get your private certificate in an old clapped out Cessna and really see how you like it. Lots of other schools out there can finish you off from that point.
- Don't even think about touching a G1000 equipped aircraft. This will not only save you money, but if you can fly IFR and shoot approaches sans glass that's a skillset that will save you money in the long term.
- Don't worry about what airline you're going to fly for until you have about 1,450 hours. Up until then everything is subject to change, and WILL change.
- Two years is a bit optimistic I think. Who knows......
All that said, if you want to fly, go for it, with a couple of caveats:
- If you're going to a "pilot mill" that's demanding 100% up front, DON'T. Not saying that it would happen to you, but some people have lot a lot of mooney this way.
- The best thing you can do right now is go get your private certificate in an old clapped out Cessna and really see how you like it. Lots of other schools out there can finish you off from that point.
- Don't even think about touching a G1000 equipped aircraft. This will not only save you money, but if you can fly IFR and shoot approaches sans glass that's a skillset that will save you money in the long term.
- Don't worry about what airline you're going to fly for until you have about 1,450 hours. Up until then everything is subject to change, and WILL change.
- Two years is a bit optimistic I think. Who knows......
04-19-2014, 05:44 PM
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1) I am in the industry. I obviously know the regionals aren't where 95% of us want to be and - like those 95% - am doing whatever I can to get out whenever the opportunity arises.
2) If you would READ, you would be able to see what my comment is about. He's on here complaining and telling people that he has ZERO percent chance of getting hired outside the regionals, and that he hates it so much he's going to quit in three years. Just quit now, what are you waiting for? Once again... one less to compete with (maybe you'll get it this time). You can go quit, too.
2) If you would READ, you would be able to see what my comment is about. He's on here complaining and telling people that he has ZERO percent chance of getting hired outside the regionals, and that he hates it so much he's going to quit in three years. Just quit now, what are you waiting for? Once again... one less to compete with (maybe you'll get it this time). You can go quit, too.
04-19-2014, 05:46 PM
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Well Bzzt and Bedrock, I am starting flight school May 19 and I am 22, it is a pilot mill school but I am willing to work hard and I will be able to fly everyday. the reason I asked about republic because they have 3 bases within 1 and a half hours driving distance, meaning there is a good chance I would not have to commute. Being 22 I do not have "my own family", wife and kids. I do have a girlfriend whom I have discussed this with and dated long distance in college so we think we are as best tested as anyone entering this industry. Spending a few days away from your wife/family is nothing like 3-4 months, then only getting a week at best during college breaks.
So Bedrock, do you think with my situation, starting at practically the youngest age I can hopefully being at a regional by 24, is alright for this industry? Someone has to fly RJs for the future of aviation, of course who wouldn't love to be at a major before 30? I will do everything in my power to get to a major asap, hopefully the industry is on a so called uprise and that may be possible, but I am going in open minded about worse cases, stuck as regional FO for 5-10 years or at the regional permanently.
Bzzt, if you were 22 could live at your base not having to commute and had no family you would be missing, do you think you might have a better perspective on the career? Would you still regret it? If a major hired you in the next couple years before you quit in your current situation would you still feel the same?
So Bedrock, do you think with my situation, starting at practically the youngest age I can hopefully being at a regional by 24, is alright for this industry? Someone has to fly RJs for the future of aviation, of course who wouldn't love to be at a major before 30? I will do everything in my power to get to a major asap, hopefully the industry is on a so called uprise and that may be possible, but I am going in open minded about worse cases, stuck as regional FO for 5-10 years or at the regional permanently.
Bzzt, if you were 22 could live at your base not having to commute and had no family you would be missing, do you think you might have a better perspective on the career? Would you still regret it? If a major hired you in the next couple years before you quit in your current situation would you still feel the same?
The airline industry may improve significantly buy the time you're here-OR-maybe not!
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