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02-21-2014, 04:23 PM
#153
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the e board got it today, they CAN just say no and not let the pilots will not be able to vote on it, or after a week they can give it out to the pilots for a vote. if its like the leak version that is out there isnt not going to pass
02-21-2014, 04:31 PM
#154
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Posts: 495
Are you drunk??? I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Maybe a little proof reading next time, bud.
02-21-2014, 04:40 PM
#155
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Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
I don't think so. If there is a TA, it must go to the membership for a vote.
02-21-2014, 09:32 PM
#158
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02-22-2014, 02:42 AM
#159
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Posts: 1,075
Weasel-Words
Read it cover to cover. Better yet, do a word search looking for open ended words and phrases.
Does it say "may" or does it say "shall?" If the former, apply it in context and assume you will lose the grievance.
Does it say "subject to?" If so, insert the words "the whim of" in order to achieve the full meaning of the clause.
Does it say "at the discretion of?" Change to read "under no circumstances."
These are only a few examples. Check carefully. Regardless of what is contained within the TA, the wording needs to be TIGHT. Without that, all that BB&Co have to do is say "That is not our interpretation" and it's off to Grievanceland with the lot of you. There is a rich and storied history.
Check carefully for the weasel words. They are evidence of bad faith at best and a con job at worst
Read it cover to cover. Better yet, do a word search looking for open ended words and phrases.
Does it say "may" or does it say "shall?" If the former, apply it in context and assume you will lose the grievance.
Does it say "subject to?" If so, insert the words "the whim of" in order to achieve the full meaning of the clause.
Does it say "at the discretion of?" Change to read "under no circumstances."
These are only a few examples. Check carefully. Regardless of what is contained within the TA, the wording needs to be TIGHT. Without that, all that BB&Co have to do is say "That is not our interpretation" and it's off to Grievanceland with the lot of you. There is a rich and storied history.
Check carefully for the weasel words. They are evidence of bad faith at best and a con job at worst
Last edited by Hetman; 02-22-2014 at 02:57 AM.
02-22-2014, 05:23 AM
#160
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
Or do you have all the specifics?
Seems to me that if it's a good deal, the ones who should be upset are the guys whose union President has been telling them "sorry, nothing we can do for you regional guys..."
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