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Old 02-15-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Spevol
Everything in red is what I heard. Basically not much has changed. They want to basically make every pilot a quasi reserve pilot.

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Surely what you "heard" came from a negotiator...right?

Otherwise it is, as they say in court...heresay...a polite way of saying horsecaca...in other words, no different than a management troll spreading rumors.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:33 AM
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Joliet is a piece of work.

Please stop responding to him. He is a proud PSA'er who's proud he voted in a contract that hurts the rest of the industry. Ignore him and he'll go away.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLightOff
No. $30k a year isn't poverty wages but is that really what we're shooting for? Not being on welfare? Which, by the way, some of us with kids qualify for. Our profession merits more pay...period. If we all demanded it we would get it. Simple as that. We cannot be replaced. A train conductor makes 10 times what a regional pilot makes and he doesn't have to make turns!!
Tell that to all those new hires who went to RAH over the last 8 years to "fly a real airplane".
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Tell that to all those new hires who went to RAH over the last 8 years to "fly a real airplane".
Give. It. A. Rest.

I see your bitterness and immaturity carry over here from JC. Move on. Or at least find some new lines.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by exwaterski
I would be very leery of those C300 rates. They did the same thing in the last contract slipping in E170 rates long before they were on anyone's radar. That can and will come back to haunt you and you'll be having the same fight 10 years from now after you've got a hundred of them on the certificate. Don't leave future FO's trying to figure how they got stuck flying an A320 sized airplane for 45K a year because you were too anxious to get your hands on a pay raise. TREAD CAREFULLY.
good point
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
good point
It would not surprise me if that entire TA is nothing but a Trojan Horse designed to slip those C300 rates in right under your noses.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:15 PM
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In Denver this morning two Q guys were all giddy about what was apparently in the new TA, and then when I just looked at them with an "are you serious?" look, they mumbled to each other wondering why they didn't get any support from me.

We all have support from each other right now to do what is best for us all, so don't give in.

IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT EQUAL ADEQUACY. That's the problem here. RAH has their pilots right where they want them by supposedly offering improvements over what they currently have. I fear A LOT of people will take that bait.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:57 PM
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Might be a dumb question, but what does "Requires pilots to be contactable by notification" mean?
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:04 PM
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Can we all, and especially those that don't work at rah, just **** about the contract?

WE HAVEN'T SEEN A TA. NO LINE PILOT NOR THE EXCO HAS IT EITHER!!!

When we see it, them you can all discuss what we should do! All this bashing and crazy talk is getting annoying. Once again, we haven't seen the TA! It's nothing but rumor going around!
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PapaUniform
Might be a dumb question, but what does "Requires pilots to be contactable by notification" mean?
Thanks! I was wondering the same thing!
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