Originally Posted by Karma

The choice is yours.... a corporate style jet vs an airliner.

Originally Posted by sqwkvfr

EVERY SINGLE ONE of your points should have an asterisk at the end with the "small print" at the bottom of your posts.

While I question the "8-hour average duty day" on its face, you have to tell the folks that your days only average 8 hours because RAH trips will have one short day per 4-day, but work you just shy of 14 hours right up until midnight on your last day. No commute home and no fatigue calls because the crew "just wants to get home." Also, trips start VERY early and end VERY late because of RAH's fatiguing outstation basing strategy. This robs crews of nearly a full extra day both preparing for and recovering from a trip on your days off. ...and you will develop a sleep disorder.

Anyone with as much experience as you claim to have should understand that 25-hour layovers SUCK! RAH uses them to keep crew in hub cities (where they should be based in the first place) so they can be available for reassignment should they need a replacement on another trip or to cover a trip because of RAH's anorexic staffing. RAH's contract proposal requires crew members to be AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES DURING A TRIP for such reassignments, which means that we would have to pay for cell phones with INTERNATIONAL SERVICE (because we fly to Canada (with no international override or per-diem, by the way)) and would be required to answer them at all times of the day or nights while on a trip whenever the company calls! Nice place to work, huh?

Cancelled flights are not pay protected just because you "do something else." The company uses an interpretation that DOES NOT DO THIS! Funny how you've never lost any money in 6 years because of a cancellation...I was hired 2+ years ago and have lost a LOT of money...one 4-day trip ended up crediting just over 9 hours. $270 for FOUR DAY'S PAY! $67.50 PER DAY.

I would also like to add that my new hire class contained 17 people...a little over 2 years later, exactly FOUR of us are still here.

Even your 75 hour claim is a lie....if you really work for RAH (as a pilot) you should very well know the term "adjusted guarantee," which, at RAH, makes the word "guarantee" completely worthless. I learned this the hard way on payday after said 9-hour four day.

I just looked at 4-day pairing for next month...chosen randomly...3 of my days are 12-hour days...one with a sit just shy of four hours in a base WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FLIPPIN CREW ROOM!! 8 hour average, MY ASS! ...in fact, I'd say that I've had more days with 8 hours of SITTING than 4-hour duty days.

Days off: Yeah, you can end up with a lot of days off, but that doesn't do most a damn bit of good when they are in 2-day stretches, particularly when one has to cut short activities early the day before a trip to go to bed at 7PM with the hopes of getting 8 hours of sleep before getting up to go to work and then spend the day after a trip sleeping until noon just so your body can catch up with the circadian rhythm violations that are built into nearly every multi-day RAH trip.

You are clearly some sort of a management stooge or plant. RAH is not above this sort of tactic and I have never come across anyone at this place with the longevity that you claim to have and not possess a "f this place" attitude....the fact that you seem to be so blatantly on the opposite end tells me that you are some sort of a plant trying to defend the company against line pilots like myself in order to keep the new hires coming in or you're just a troll getting some sort of sick pleasure spreading misinformation to people who don't know any better. Your join date is suspect and the fact that you never say anything bad about RAH gives me strong suspicion to question your authenticity and motives.

Everyone who listens to you does so at their own peril.

I apologize for the tone, but you remind of Roger Cohen....you know, mister "people are staying at the regional airlines because they are finding the pay and work rules more to their liking" when he knew full well that the real reason was the retirement age change....also "no one has worked harder for these new rest rules than the regional airline industry."

(where's the tylenol?)