Redbird611

I'm on the CRJ side. I just find the pay disaster on the ERJ side unacceptable.

701EV

Redbird, I thought you were in the ERJ side.

I agree, it's unacceptable that the puzzle palace can't seem to fix the pay issue on the ERJ side. People need to start losing jobs if they cant fix it!

I guess I've been lucky in 15 years I've only had one paycheck issue.

701EV

STR8NLVL

Just so you know, RAH also has criminally incompetent payroll staff. In the last year, we've had at least two paychecks where as many as 600 pilots had checks shorted by up to $1,000. If you're reassigned, if you don't email crew pay you won't be pay protected. And if you do, there's a 50/50 chance they'll get it right.

For me, were I in your shoes there's no question that I'd go to XJT. My friends that I trained with that are there have made $1,000's more than me over the course of our careers, not to mention the better QOL.

As to RAH, I'd avoid the Q just because they've hired most of them already. So as mentioned, you'll be stuck on the bottom of the list there, unable to get off RSV or hold a good line until everyone above you upgrades, all hired in the last few months. Meanwhile, all the 145 and 170 guys hired at the same time will be getting much better lines and more days off.

The 145 myth is just that. The training is easier on the 170. But they aren't busting guys in droves on the 145. It's just a little harder.

But like I said, if offered both, there's no way I'd come here over XJT.

AtlCSIP

It's called a Performance Plus bonus, and our performance sucked 1st qtr, hence the $60. We have also had them over $200 in a quarter.

Don't know anything about RAH, but ExpressJet is not a bad place to be. Could it be better? Of course, but still not a bad place to be. I would go anywhere you don't have to commute.

DSRoss996

If you have a pair of white Oakley's, a few gallons of hair gel, and are in love with yourself then you should probably go to Express Jet.

JetBlast77

lol as opposed to Republic? Everytime I try to have a conversation with a republic guy it gets weirder and weirder. Why do you guys always sound like you're falling asleep on the radio? Ill take a little hairgel and some self confidence any day over the classic "just rolled out of bed" look with the shirt tail hanging out, unshaven, with crooked hat on practically falling off. But I digress.....

All I can say is at XJT, at least on the ERJ side, you are pay protected for EVERYTHING, period. Dropped trips for cancelations, training, FBO, ect. Your guarentee is protected in a vacation month (you can fly 30 hours and get paid 75). I just got FBOed off a two day and picked up another two day over top at 150%. I credited 30 hours for the two days. These little perks of a decent contract start to add up after awhile.

Karma

This is great news!!! Could you imagine the training cost associated with $35,000 a pop every time an FO wanted to move back and forth between certificates. If FO's were allowed I guarantee you that you wouldn't be getting 47 new 175s to reduce your upgrade time on all 3 certificates because the company would be going bankrupt with training cost. Lets say only half of the list wanted to make a move. 1,000 people with out even counting any backfill/new hire cost. That would be $35,000,000, that is $35 million dollars worth of training cost if the company allowed a free for all. The company is pretty liberal about letting you defer classes when you get hired to get a particular class. Make up your mind then where you want to be for a few years then you can switch certificates when you upgrade.

freezingflyboy

I'll take a stab at it...I am on the ERJ side with 7+ years...

Before ATL took over, pay claims/payroll issues were so infrequent that I never could remember the process for submitting them. I'd estimate maybe 2-3 payroll issues per YEAR and then it was usually only when something really weird happened to your schedule. I would actually have to ask someone in the crew room or look it up every time I needed to submit one because I had forgotten in the six months since my last one. Pay issues were usually corrected within a few days, a week at most.

Now fast-forward to post-ATL takeover. Pay issues are a regular occurrence, especially for reserves. I probably submit 2-3 per MONTH now. And the time to correct them can sometimes be weeks. Most of us on the ERJ side joke that payroll auditing is our second job. Issues include little things like being shorted customs or deadhead pay all the way up to having an entire 4-day trip I had flown removed/not credited (then the issue being corrected...to someone elses paycheck...THAT was a mess...). I have also heard of over payments from other crew members and the company just withdrawing that money from people's accounts without saying a word. Had one FA who was bouncing checks all over town because the company had overpaid her then taken back $400 without informing her. Spent most of the trip on her phone with the bank trying to figure it out.

So to say that payroll since the merger has been a CF is accurate at best and an understatement at worst. Now all that in perspective, this is still not a bad place to be right now given the current regional landscape. Is there uncertainty about the future? Sure. But I'll take a solid contract NOW and decent pay NOW over promises for the future.

Oskeewowow

One of your 145s was behind me last night on a 2 hr flight. Every response from them was a long, drawn out, lazy "aaaayyyyceeeeyyy." I could have sworn Lurch was on the radio. He mistakenly took our call sign twice. My point is, every airline has people like that.


We have none of those perks. This is part of the reason we are in such a nasty contract dispute.

Go to XJT!!!!

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Freeze

I'm sorry to hear that.

To me there is NO excuse for screwing up a paycheck.

701EV