PilotJ3

Even at eagle, we are losing pilots in the next months. At least 20 a month will go to AA once they start hiring again.

PurdueFlyer

It's at least partially to mostly your fault.

1. You took the job at RAH knowing what the place was.
2. Your pilot group refuses to do what is necessary to get a new contract. You guys complain and complain about how tough it is and how Bedford and his goons won't negotiator, but why should they? You guys consistently operate on time, which keeps filling Bedford's wallet. Until you guys man up and collectively do what is needed to get a new contract you will always be towards the bottom of the compensation and quality in the industry. Stop whining about your crappy pay and making websites and actually do something. Do what the AA pilots did or what the ASA pilots did. Both groups got better deals within months of doing one simple thing: their job by the book.

If you guys don't do something then you'll continue to grow and undercut everyone else. The rest of us at the other carriers don't want to be the next Ameican Eagle partially because of you. We need regionals to have better contracts so that longer term the costs of outsourcing are too high and flying remains at or returns to mainline.

Yes management at RAH and AMR shares blame too, but own up to your share of the responsibility. More importantly man up and do something to better your situation instead of just crying about how bad things are at RAH on your stupid website (which doesn't appear to work since Bedford is still filling classes).

lakehouse

This guy gets it.

hockeypilot44

I don't want to be a bearer of bad news, but it seems you want to work under your current contract until you move on to your next airline. Your decision is a very bad business decision. Maybe when you mature some day, you will realize how much money this attitude cost you.

magnus0322

I was speaking in regards to the Union proposed pay rates. I'm all for being the highest paid pilots in the country. However that is not likely to happen going from our current contract into an industry leading contract. Bedford is too smart to allow that to happen. Our pilot group has people who still bail the company out everyday. I fly with captains that will release the brake early so we can start getting paid an extra 10 minutes. Meanwhile this mindset only helps the company! I would much rather follow the book to the T and take the delay like we are supposed to. There is zero reason why we should be helping the company. We also should not have people picking up open time or doing scheduling favors. There should be a zero favors zero open time pickup policy agreed upon by every RAH pilot.

When you say when I mature and how much this attitude cost me... So let me get this straight... You approve of a contract that throws every reserve pilot under the bus. Every junior pilot under the bus. And every FO under the bus for some decent gains at the top of the CA pay scale? Again, giving up negotiating capital for gains for the lifers is an absolute NO vote from me. I know I'm not the only FO that feels this way.

I would much rather see industry leading work rules at our current rates than industry leading captain rates with our current work rules/worse work rules from the LBFO.

Oskeewowow

Consider his perspective- Hockeypilot benefited from quick upgrades at CHQ, caught on at NWA & now he's living the dream! I've got mine, so screw everyone else.

Oskeewowow

If we're assigning blame here, how much does Skywest get? How much does the NMB get? How much does your Union leadership get for having the wool pulled over their eyes?

PurdueFlyer

Plenty of blame goes around everywhere. I'm just tired of RAH pilots whining about their crappy contract and not doing a thing about it.

Further I'm tired of them saying it's not their fault at all. They share some of the responsibility.

What

You also have plenty of them saying that they are glad that they don't have a good contract because that is how you end up shrinking and in BK. And because of their contract they are growing!

TillerEnvy

Do you think before you type? You seem to have RAH on your mind all the time. Did you not get hired here? Turned down for an interview? Move on. Worry about your own airline problems.