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Cancelation pay is a MUST and we won't bend on that. Rates are one thing but when things cancel and your month goes to hell in a hand basket you'll think about how cancelation pay goes a long way to improve life. Just today with all the wx in the Midwest I lost 6+ hours of pay. So now to get that back ill have to burn time off just to make that up. So yes it is a big deal. I'm tired of this company making Kirby and me losing it. It has created a culture of passing on the buck for write ups to. Certain people don't want to write things up because they don't want to lose money. Tell me how that's safe? People ask us why we can't pull of what AA pilots just did, well that's why. So this contract needs to get done and it needs to be done right. And until this company has a recruiting problem, nothing will change and they won't give us the contract that is industry standard or slightly above. There's no incentive for the company. So all people who don't work here or see how things work first hand should rethink their comments against this pilot group. And for those considering this company should really look elsewhere until its all sorted out. When I got here things weren't too bad, and people were convinced this would be finished quickly. Guess what. We were wrong. So take that for what it is. And if I could go somewhere else I would. I am trying...so to each their own.
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I take it you didn't read or understand how RAH works. The growth means very little to anyone not hired into the RW side. Those hired into the Q400 or E145 face a brutal ride.
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Refuse to believe what you want. That website is conservative if anything. PM me if you have further questions, I'll be glad to tell you what this place is like.
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So at the moment is there no ability to trip trade or drop trips?
I take it in terms of vacancies you mean the pilot group would like to see vacancy bids that allow movement between certificates?
From what I've seen the proposed trip rigs are actually better than those offered at several other regionals, including my own (currently 15 hours min for a 4 day trip).
I'm trying to get a greater understanding of where the conflicts lie.
I take it in terms of vacancies you mean the pilot group would like to see vacancy bids that allow movement between certificates?
From what I've seen the proposed trip rigs are actually better than those offered at several other regionals, including my own (currently 15 hours min for a 4 day trip).
I'm trying to get a greater understanding of where the conflicts lie.
For vacancies we want the ability to bid on our own certificate (not consistently applied right now, see Q-400 bidding), and during displacements, to any certificate in our base and/or any base we can hold by seniority. Also, there should be a system-wide bid probably once a year.
The trip rig is useless for most trips. So either your company has a lot of 15 hour four days or your trip rig is also useless. We no longer have a pairing analyzer but 80 TAFB is common, under this rig, you'd get about 16hrs credit. That would not encourage efficient trips, nor would it compensate pilots reasonably for their time away from base.
However, more directly, the conflicts lie in micro-management and animosity. We do not trust our managers to do the right thing (morally or operationally). I've talked to quite a few pilots that would vote "no" to anything, just to punish the company for this abuse. Personally, I intend to vote "no" and consider voting "yes" on day 3 of the strike, if the proposal includes all the main things I'm looking for. On the other hand, the company does not like the union, and does not believe that the pilots are as ****ed as the union portrays.
In the words of Bryan Bedford. "We'll negotiate when there is a release [cooling off period]. That's the way the system works." --jumpseating in May 2010.
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The trip rig is useless for most trips. So either your company has a lot of 15 hour four days or your trip rig is also useless. We no longer have a pairing analyzer but 80 TAFB is common, under this rig, you'd get about 16hrs credit. That would not encourage efficient trips, nor would it compensate pilots reasonably for their time away from base.
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With the addition of Caesar's flying we've see massive dip in productivity. My friend recently had a 3hr scheduled 4 day. That's with no cancellations. Luckily he is on RSV so he got 16 hours towards guarantee but he won't break guarantee so...
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Originally Posted by 3stripes:1393908
The trip rig is useless for most trips. So either your company has a lot of 15 hour four days or your trip rig is also useless. We no longer have a pairing analyzer but 80 TAFB is common, under this rig, you'd get about 16hrs credit. That would not encourage efficient trips, nor would it compensate pilots reasonably for their time away from base.
Another thing is that because of said rest rules I can at least envision the outstation bases drastically reducing due to the fact they won't be able to start you at 5am and duty you for 14 hours like they can today. This company will do what costs them least and I sure hope the outstation model costs them. The reason the trips are utter $#!+ here is because of the outstations.
Finally, there are many areas in that LBFO where the current contract is better. A 2003 contract better than a 2013 LBFO. Think about that. I for one will not sell out the reserve pilots. I also will not vote for anything that doesn't allow for an open scheduling system where you can see where you fall on reserve and the number of reserves in base. Reserves should also have the option to bid First out, last out, etc. We also should not have to give up our no hot reserve LOA. In the LBFO the company wants hot reserve pilots again.
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This is exactly why I would vote NO to the LBFO. Any trip rig that doesn't value my TAFB is an automatic no because of the new rest rules. Either schedules will be more efficient or they better give me at least a 5 hour min day. With the way this company forces us to fly 82 hrs a month if we don't have high credit trips we will all be flying 18-19 days a month for min guarantee.
Another thing is that because of said rest rules I can at least envision the outstation bases drastically reducing due to the fact they won't be able to start you at 5am and duty you for 14 hours like they can today. This company will do what costs them least and I sure hope the outstation model costs them. The reason the trips are utter $#!+ here is because of the outstations.
Finally, there are many areas in that LBFO where the current contract is better. A 2003 contract better than a 2013 LBFO. Think about that. I for one will not sell out the reserve pilots. I also will not vote for anything that doesn't allow for an open scheduling system where you can see where you fall on reserve and the number of reserves in base. Reserves should also have the option to bid First out, last out, etc. We also should not have to give up our no hot reserve LOA. In the LBFO the company wants hot reserve pilots again.
Another thing is that because of said rest rules I can at least envision the outstation bases drastically reducing due to the fact they won't be able to start you at 5am and duty you for 14 hours like they can today. This company will do what costs them least and I sure hope the outstation model costs them. The reason the trips are utter $#!+ here is because of the outstations.
Finally, there are many areas in that LBFO where the current contract is better. A 2003 contract better than a 2013 LBFO. Think about that. I for one will not sell out the reserve pilots. I also will not vote for anything that doesn't allow for an open scheduling system where you can see where you fall on reserve and the number of reserves in base. Reserves should also have the option to bid First out, last out, etc. We also should not have to give up our no hot reserve LOA. In the LBFO the company wants hot reserve pilots again.
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Originally Posted by samc:1394026
This is exactly why I would vote NO to the LBFO. Any trip rig that doesn't value my TAFB is an automatic no because of the new rest rules. Either schedules will be more efficient or they better give me at least a 5 hour min day. With the way this company forces us to fly 82 hrs a month if we don't have high credit trips we will all be flying 18-19 days a month for min guarantee.
Another thing is that because of said rest rules I can at least envision the outstation bases drastically reducing due to the fact they won't be able to start you at 5am and duty you for 14 hours like they can today. This company will do what costs them least and I sure hope the outstation model costs them. The reason the trips are utter $#!+ here is because of the outstations.
Finally, there are many areas in that LBFO where the current contract is better. A 2003 contract better than a 2013 LBFO. Think about that. I for one will not sell out the reserve pilots. I also will not vote for anything that doesn't allow for an open scheduling system where you can see where you fall on reserve and the number of reserves in base. Reserves should also have the option to bid First out, last out, etc. We also should not have to give up our no hot reserve LOA. In the LBFO the company wants hot reserve pilots again.
Another thing is that because of said rest rules I can at least envision the outstation bases drastically reducing due to the fact they won't be able to start you at 5am and duty you for 14 hours like they can today. This company will do what costs them least and I sure hope the outstation model costs them. The reason the trips are utter $#!+ here is because of the outstations.
Finally, there are many areas in that LBFO where the current contract is better. A 2003 contract better than a 2013 LBFO. Think about that. I for one will not sell out the reserve pilots. I also will not vote for anything that doesn't allow for an open scheduling system where you can see where you fall on reserve and the number of reserves in base. Reserves should also have the option to bid First out, last out, etc. We also should not have to give up our no hot reserve LOA. In the LBFO the company wants hot reserve pilots again.
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