Republic vs Eagle for new hire?
01-28-2013, 10:25 AM
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I know the duel lav, ACARS printer and ceiling height doesn't seem like a big deal and the common trend is to think short term but there is a deeper concern to such small incidentals. Firsts off, the height of the cabin creates the need for a person 6'0 or taller to choose one of two methods to travel the journey to the rear lav. The first method is to simply bow your head down/forward which over time can alter your natural lordotic curve and deteriorate your cervical neck posture. You could avoid this by not staying properly hydrated which also has it's disadvantage or making trips into the terminal while increasing your fluid hold time which increase your chances for bladder or kidney complications. The second travel method to the rear lav is the tilt your head/body slightly to the side which over time increases your chances of causing self induced scoliosis.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
01-28-2013, 10:49 AM
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I know the duel lav, ACARS printer and ceiling height doesn't seem like a big deal and the common trend is to think short term but there is a deeper concern to such small incidentals. Firsts off, the height of the cabin creates the need for a person 6'0 or taller to choose one of two methods to travel the journey to the rear lav. The first method is to simply bow your head down/forward which over time can alter your natural lordotic curve and deteriorate your cervical neck posture. You could avoid this by not staying properly hydrated which also has it's disadvantage or making trips into the terminal while increasing your fluid hold time which increase your chances for bladder or kidney complications. The second travel method to the rear lav is the tilt your head/body slightly to the side which over time increases your chances of causing self induced scoliosis.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
01-28-2013, 12:11 PM
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I know the duel lav, ACARS printer and ceiling height doesn't seem like a big deal and the common trend is to think short term but there is a deeper concern to such small incidentals. Firsts off, the height of the cabin creates the need for a person 6'0 or taller to choose one of two methods to travel the journey to the rear lav. The first method is to simply bow your head down/forward which over time can alter your natural lordotic curve and deteriorate your cervical neck posture. You could avoid this by not staying properly hydrated which also has it's disadvantage or making trips into the terminal while increasing your fluid hold time which increase your chances for bladder or kidney complications. The second travel method to the rear lav is the tilt your head/body slightly to the side which over time increases your chances of causing self induced scoliosis.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
01-28-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by exwaterski:1341022
I know the duel lav, ACARS printer and ceiling height doesn't seem like a big deal and the common trend is to think short term but there is a deeper concern to such small incidentals. Firsts off, the height of the cabin creates the need for a person 6'0 or taller to choose one of two methods to travel the journey to the rear lav. The first method is to simply bow your head down/forward which over time can alter your natural lordotic curve and deteriorate your cervical neck posture. You could avoid this by not staying properly hydrated which also has it's disadvantage or making trips into the terminal while increasing your fluid hold time which increase your chances for bladder or kidney complications. The second travel method to the rear lav is the tilt your head/body slightly to the side which over time increases your chances of causing self induced scoliosis.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
01-28-2013, 01:47 PM
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I know the duel lav, ACARS printer and ceiling height doesn't seem like a big deal and the common trend is to think short term but there is a deeper concern to such small incidentals. Firsts off, the height of the cabin creates the need for a person 6'0 or taller to choose one of two methods to travel the journey to the rear lav. The first method is to simply bow your head down/forward which over time can alter your natural lordotic curve and deteriorate your cervical neck posture. You could avoid this by not staying properly hydrated which also has it's disadvantage or making trips into the terminal while increasing your fluid hold time which increase your chances for bladder or kidney complications. The second travel method to the rear lav is the tilt your head/body slightly to the side which over time increases your chances of causing self induced scoliosis.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
As far as the ACARS printer, I was giving Eagle props for having them. Having to write down your ATIS and clearance over the years can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome.
01-28-2013, 07:10 PM
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I have to disagree with karma and a few others on some points.
1. We do have CDOs, I did one last month.
2. QOL here is highly variable due to base/flying shuffling and general schedule inefficiency. QOL here on RSV is worse than most places I've heard of. Some of us get treated to 3 hours of flying in a 4 day with 9 hours of deadheading. Trips are incredibly inefficient for a few months in a row then good for a month or two. Live in base? You'll sit out of base RSV till your last day then dhd home. You're on RSV 0300-1500 and have a flight schedule that lands at 0100 the next day. No problem, they call you at 0301 and put you back on rest for ten hours, now you can fly the trip with 4 hours of slack.
3. We displaced three weeks ago, so I don't know where the idea that we don't displace frequently came from.
4. QoL here is the worst of any regional I've heard of (although someone could be worse). We don't have junior manning but we do have daily line-holder reassignments, mandatory call scheduling within 15 min of block-in on RSV and trips getting switched to different aircraft types.
5. If you want to bid for a specific day off while on RSV, the company is not required to view, or comply with your bid. So RSVs get whatever schedule the company feels like handing out.
6. If you are a line holder and could otherwise hold a day off, there is a decent chance that you'll get "unstacked" on and not get the day off. Pilots junior to you by years will hold the day off and you have no remedy.
These are a few points that came to mind.
1. We do have CDOs, I did one last month.
2. QOL here is highly variable due to base/flying shuffling and general schedule inefficiency. QOL here on RSV is worse than most places I've heard of. Some of us get treated to 3 hours of flying in a 4 day with 9 hours of deadheading. Trips are incredibly inefficient for a few months in a row then good for a month or two. Live in base? You'll sit out of base RSV till your last day then dhd home. You're on RSV 0300-1500 and have a flight schedule that lands at 0100 the next day. No problem, they call you at 0301 and put you back on rest for ten hours, now you can fly the trip with 4 hours of slack.
3. We displaced three weeks ago, so I don't know where the idea that we don't displace frequently came from.
4. QoL here is the worst of any regional I've heard of (although someone could be worse). We don't have junior manning but we do have daily line-holder reassignments, mandatory call scheduling within 15 min of block-in on RSV and trips getting switched to different aircraft types.
5. If you want to bid for a specific day off while on RSV, the company is not required to view, or comply with your bid. So RSVs get whatever schedule the company feels like handing out.
6. If you are a line holder and could otherwise hold a day off, there is a decent chance that you'll get "unstacked" on and not get the day off. Pilots junior to you by years will hold the day off and you have no remedy.
These are a few points that came to mind.
01-28-2013, 07:37 PM
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I personally have three friends at Republic who went there after Eagle didn't hire them a couple of years ago.
Each and every one of them HATES Republic with a passion. One just got displaced from DEN to PHL a couple of weeks ago...his third displacement in less than a year.
One is contemplating quitting this career all together because he is so miserable at Republic. He has applied to Eagle twice before and been rejected. I convinced him to try one more time. They pulled his application a few days ago (after I placed a call to our hiring manager).
As others have said, I have yet to meet anybody who has been happy at Republic. The things I hear that go on in there make my jaw drop to the ground.
Each and every one of them HATES Republic with a passion. One just got displaced from DEN to PHL a couple of weeks ago...his third displacement in less than a year.
One is contemplating quitting this career all together because he is so miserable at Republic. He has applied to Eagle twice before and been rejected. I convinced him to try one more time. They pulled his application a few days ago (after I placed a call to our hiring manager).
As others have said, I have yet to meet anybody who has been happy at Republic. The things I hear that go on in there make my jaw drop to the ground.
01-28-2013, 07:48 PM
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I personally have three friends at Republic who went there after Eagle didn't hire them a couple of years ago.
Each and every one of them HATES Republic with a passion. One just got displaced from DEN to PHL a couple of weeks ago...his third displacement in less than a year.
One is contemplating quitting this career all together because he is so miserable at Republic. He has applied to Eagle twice before and been rejected. I convinced him to try one more time. They pulled his application a few days ago (after I placed a call to our hiring manager).
As others have said, I have yet to meet anybody who has been happy at Republic. The things I hear that go on in there make my jaw drop to the ground.
Each and every one of them HATES Republic with a passion. One just got displaced from DEN to PHL a couple of weeks ago...his third displacement in less than a year.
One is contemplating quitting this career all together because he is so miserable at Republic. He has applied to Eagle twice before and been rejected. I convinced him to try one more time. They pulled his application a few days ago (after I placed a call to our hiring manager).
As others have said, I have yet to meet anybody who has been happy at Republic. The things I hear that go on in there make my jaw drop to the ground.
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