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Old 01-27-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
Is it true that RAH does NOT offer access to ZED travel?
It's limited through the Frontier zed agreements. Company is working on a zed agreement that is separate from that one for when Frontier is sold.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Both will have lots of people at the top moving on to other things - maybe Eagle a bit more due to the three different methods of going over to AA (Numbered, "824" and preferential hiring). However, would you rather go to an airline that has fast movement and growing or fast movement and shrinking?
That all can change in a new York minute and we both know it.

I made 45k at eagle second year pay. 20% of my pay I never flew and it fell into what's labeled as cx credit. Id have been paid less hourly and lost that 20% if i were at rah.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:48 PM
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I personally have never met an RAH pilot who liked it there.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:49 PM
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I have worked for Eagle just about 6years I live in base and it was my only reason to come to Eagle at the time. I have been very lucky to be able work here and if it wasn't because of this shameful bankruptcy our contract would still be leading. I was hired into the ATR initially and at the time (07') everybody was hiring and a friend of mine that was working at republic (now at JetBlue) convinced me to apply when he thought it would be beneficial to upgrade quicker at Republic and also be able to fly a Jet (CRJ 200 that they flew at the time out of Corpus Christi) I even considered doing a two leg commute for that non-sense, (chasing quick upgrade and a jet) I did get hired and was offered a class; even as a new FO at eagle at the time and with my ignorance of the republic rules my then chief pilot convinced me to stay on the single premise that things don't always work out as we might think. I never went to that class just because a two leg commute wasn't going to beat driving to work. I however was very lucky because those CRJ 200 ended up being parked and the classes of new hires furloughed, my friend never upgraded and complained a lot about his choice; so in my experience it is very hard to predict what company will be better than the other.

I think is important to know that a single month of seniority can make a big difference in your overall quality of life and it would be fair to say that it is different for anyone, in my case I have had and excellent time at eagle; excellent maintenance, the ACs are old but very well maintained (I flew the ATR and those were old, never had anything that had me scared specially after flying them in bad weather in Florida) never been on reserve, never been junior manned, extended or have had any other bad experience. Many of the CA you fly with are old and very experienced maybe a little too much so you will always learn something with the old guys, some are nice some are not; the same will hold true to for the flight attendants.
I believe and it is only my opinion (I'm also biased because I work here) that things will be getting better at Eagle. I don't see any managers jumping ship and most people here mostly captains want work for American and will be taking any chance they get to go there which it will create some movement. Probably not from the very top but from somewhere in the middle which it will help everyone. New airplanes are coming not because AMR is nice but because we gave them a very competitive contract to fly them, now the question remains on what will they be CRJ OR ERJ. Hence, it is just matter of time and we will also have new offices. (Not that im looking forward to flying them since I will be flying more people for the same money; thank you bankruptcy ;-( )
I hope this helps when making your decision.

I unfortunately don't have much info about republic other than what I read here at APC about their contract from RAH Contract NOW! | Teamsters Local 357 my interview at HQ in Indy which I thought it was very small and disorganized, and my friend who is at jetBlue now and he told me he hated working there; he was senior and working in either JFK or LGA on the 140.

If you would like to ask specific questions about any other things please ask.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingPirate
I personally have never met an RAH pilot who liked it there.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:52 PM
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My friend got hired at RAH in 2007 and was on/off RSV in PHL till 2011 when he got on with VX. He only got on because he flew an Otter PIC prior to RAH. He made about $28,000 his last year at RAH, and one time went in for a 4 day trip worth 25 hours and had CX and ended up with it being worth 13 pay. At Eagle would get paid 25. He hated it, and prior to VX calling him, he nearly jumped RAH after 4 years to start new at Eagle, just to get his pay up.
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Originally Posted by jumpseat2024
You forgot to add that you're paid 150% on top of guarantee for that junior man call, and you're entitled to receive another day off in return for being junior manned..from what my RAH friends tell me, they have horrible work rules.
Good point, I also forgot to mention that junior manning is not just for people on reserve, you could be a line holder and get the shaft worked up to your seniority on your weekend to come in when you had something planned but you're right, you'll get Monday off and a couple extra bucks to make up for it. I also forgot to add that ready reserve is not just a little here and there, as a junior mofo, your whole monthly schedule will consist of putting your uniform on and wondering around aimlessly all day in the airport begging for a call to cure the boredom. You will also fly 5-8 legs a day and have to do the walk of shame to the back lav with your head down if you're taller than 5'11" should you need to relieve yourself. The average leg per day on the 170 is 3 with a 6'5" cabin and 2 lavs. There is no denying that the pay scale is better at Eagle and there are a few little luxuries that you won't find at RAH such as an ACARS printer and a in house cafeteria when you go for training and PC's. As far as the work rules, when it comes down to it, an average day of work at RAH is much easier.
Those Jr Mofos that you say that have to put the uniform for a whole month, are the same mofos that bid the Ready RSV line. I was the most JR guy in FEB to APR in ORD in 2011 (very short on pilots) and never bid the RRSV line and never got it.

Reserve guys can proffer for open trips day before. With the new contract RsV guys can put themselves in a turn back list, if not you will get released from your duty. Will not have to call for released.

We also have cancelation credit, so while your line holders lose money with cancelations I still get paid for it.

Never been JR Manned in my 2 years, you can say no to the assignment. We will still be above any RAH Pilot flying the E-175 for AA in the Std By list in your own flight. Same story on LAX and DFW on Skywest , just for the jumpseats RAH guys will go above us in your own airplane. In AA Flight we will still number 2 in the JS after AA pilots. AA pilots will be below us in our planes but above any other pilot.

CRJ flies no more than 4 legs and EMJ flies no more than 5 legs.

Keep dreaming that QOL in RAH is better than eagle.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Those Jr Mofos that you say that have to put the uniform for a whole month, are the same mofos that bid the Ready RSV line. I was the most JR guy in FEB to APR in ORD in 2011 (very short on pilots) and never bid the RRSV line and never got it.

Reserve guys can proffer for open trips day before. With the new contract RsV guys can put themselves in a turn back list, if not you will get released from your duty. Will not have to call for released.

We also have cancelation credit, so while your line holders lose money with cancelations I still get paid for it.

Never been JR Manned in my 2 years, you can say no to the assignment. We will still be above any RAH Pilot flying the E-175 for AA in the Std By list in your own flight. Same story on LAX and DFW on Skywest , just for the jumpseats RAH guys will go above us in your own airplane. In AA Flight we will still number 2 in the JS after AA pilots. AA pilots will be below us in our planes but above any other pilot.

CRJ flies no more than 4 legs and EMJ flies no more than 5 legs.

Keep dreaming that QOL in RAH is better than eagle.
That is not true! I bid to not get the ready reserve line and I got it month after month. I flew more than 5 legs at Eagle on the 145! Do I need to post some old schedules? You just lost all credibility in my book. Also, people love to complain about cancelled flights but call me lucky but I've never had one before (knocks on wood). I don't really know why you're talking about flight benefits, most people don't pick a regional based on benefits. I wish you guys the best over at Eagle (even the selfish eagle guys who took a dump on the furloughees by picking up OT last year) but you're facing a turbulent future.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:03 PM
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I have to agree with PilotJ3 here. I have been at Eagle for a little under two years and I have never once been junior manned. They have attempted to, I just didn't pick up the phone. I have also never had a SBY line even when I was the most junior person in base. In fact, I was on RSV for the first 6 months of my employment and rarely ever sat SBY. With the Proffer system when I sat at home on 2 hour call out, and when I wanted to fly I flew. I have never flown more than 5 legs on the EMB and that is rare. I am 6'2" and I can deal with the low ceilings. The bases are great and are large domiciles for major airlines so they are very easy to commute to if you choose to do that. I have been able to pick choose any base during a vacancy bid (including LAX when it was open). That was when there was a lot of movement which has since ceased in the bankruptcy but will much likely continue when flow to AA resumes in March. The contract provides excellent working conditions and as Rickt86 mentioned even gives you the opportunity to earn extra money where did not fly. As much as I disagree with the ratification of the new contract, just about All of that has been preserved. Pay has been pretty good and I live somewhat comfortably on the second year rate (I'm single). Overall, the QOL at Eagle has been outstanding.

The problem here now is in the uncertainty we face going forward. Right now things aren't looking all that great. We are definitely shrinking at the moment. However, the new RAH contract doesn't scare me just yet because they will just be moving our CRJs to do flying elsewhere. When they don't replace the EMBs we will inevitably park I will start to worry.

I really can't say much about RAH except that everyone I've talked to there absolutely hates it. Not too long ago I had a CA on my JS that was commuting to MCI to sit RSV for just the day and that they never call him. He does this on a daily basis, I couldn't imagine. He had the typical things to say about the contract and management. From what I hear they are having a lot of problems with the Qs as far as staffing and MX and are canceling a lot of flights. I guess they are bleeding money at Frontier as well, although I don't know the specifics. You would also be enabling the only airline that pays regional wages to pilots that fly mainline jets (E190s). However, they did just get awarded the new contract to fly 175s for AA and are also offering the $5,000 bonus. Probably would be a faster upgrade and wouldn't have to deal with the low pay for as long.

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SongMan
Although I would like to go to Skywest, additional 50 hr multi time I need to buy and the fact that they are not currently hiring leads me to look at Eagle and Republic. With multi minimum being only 50 hours at eagle and republic plus $5K bonus, I would eventually get $10K head start.

Anyways, Republic and Eagle, which would be a better move this month? If given an option which out of the two would you try to get into and why?

Thank you
I don't remember the 135 mins but look into Ameriflight and go fly some freight. Great experience! After a year or 2 there head to the cush airline gig.
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