embraer

So when are you resigning? Or do you just talk the talk on the internet, tough guy? Turn in your ID by the end of the week, go to Republic..otherwise shut the F up.

buddies8

sorry ain't going to happen. you may have to though. which part of what i said is wrong? As of yet no one knows the fleet plan for eagle, but, everyone else knows there fleet plan feed for AA Are you not having by the end of this year roughly 65 less aircraft (ATR and EMB)? That equates to 650 pilots. You must not be able to accept facts well.

Why not give facts that rebut what I have said and please not what the union has said, they lie enough.

SnoJet440

Because EVERY regional airline is going to struggle for pilots! We are REQUIRED by AA to provide a certain amount of flying. Hence, no one will be in an advantaged position. If we are unable to provide, there are conequenses. These consequences apply to everyone. Stop making this the "End of Days" and start to see the opportunity.

RyanP

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Ok. Your "facts" are wrong.

Actual fleet #'s and fleet retirement numbers taken from the AMR 4th quarter financial reports released in January. EMJ 140 loan restructuring information taken from bankruptcy court docket #4936, 10/09/2012.

Colt11

Can anyone tell me if you take the $5K at AE can you leave within 2 years but pay it back? Or are you locked in for two years? Is there a training cost commitment? Thanks!

buddies8

RyanP well how many aircraft will be parked by end of 2013 including all atr's from last year and you can leave out the e140's i said for 2014.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/corpo...acts/fleet.jsp

according to this by end of this year there will be a 20% reduction in fleet size from the begining of last year. you do the math. also TWO base closure as we speak.

buddies8

go to the web site and read it. or search function here.

RyanP

Those fleet numbers in that link above are not accurate. The Eagle stuff is outdated, many of those ATR's have been gone for a while now, over a year. We only have a few ATR's left. I guess I just don't really see any point in listing all the aircraft we have parked in the past for scaring off new hires. You could throw the Saab's , Jetstream, Convair, Shorts and Metro's in there to I guess, since they are all parked by the end of 2013 too.

Current staffing and hiring is running without those aircraft that have been removed in the past. The future ones (30) being parked from us are the only ones that may affect new hires. I'm not saying its good.. just that I don't think it's as bad as you made it out to be for a new hire.

Attrition is still running 20-25 a month every month. Flows are starting next month again. Likely another 20/mo gone from flow for the remainder of the year unless something changes. Plus any future hiring attrition, puts us at 40-45/month attrition minimum.. so there is still upward movement. (I know it sucks, not as good as it could be if we weren't losing planes.. but it's still positive upwards movement for new hires)

RyanP

Another thing to consider is now 95% of our 3004 pilots (appx 2,853) are "furlough protected" due to this merger with our new contract.. It was only 1,968 were protected just yesterday (pre-merger) so it's a big change. I don't know what the effective merger dates and all that crap are exactly (for exact snapshot numbers) ..I don't know if it's based off today or some approval date in the future.

Who knows if this protection is actually worth anything in the real world and if will hold up in court.. but it IS in our contract now so it's better than not having it I guess. They may not be able to just do some mass parking of our aircraft in the future anymore, other than what they can do with attrition losses. Something to think about anyway..

buddies8

we also had pilots transfer with aircraft in our contract, how did that work out when our aircraft were transfered to AA? oh thats right, the mec waived our rights.