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Old 01-24-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
I thought eagle was hiring 600. It's down to 4-500 now? Interesting.
A ploy to artificially inflate morale among current employees and get people to actually show up to new hire class. It'll be a fraction of that when it's all said and done.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
With a huge drop in enrollment I don't think that will help much.
Exactly. The flight schools are filled with Chinese students who go home to fly a 777 when they return.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:09 PM
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So if ATP is going to keep instructors for 1500 hours while not enrolling anybody and increasing prices, RAH is gonna have to fill 50 jets with pilots, and AMR is retiring hundreds of pilots every year for the foreseeable future, how the **** is there any chance that there would be another crap contract? I understand that this opens the door for more mainline flying to go to a low compensation regional, but I would like to think that this gives pilots some leverage. Am I totally off?

Plus, that is one ugly paint job.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:35 PM
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Does anyone have details regarding how ATP compensates their instructors? I heard it was really bad but I can't remember the exact numbers. ATP instructors have shiny seminole syndrome which leads to shiny jet syndrome.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:21 PM
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When I "graduated" in 2009 and looked to instruct for them it was like 1250/mo + housing(shared apartment) with bonuses from student's good performance working 7days/wk for the most part. I instructed else where, worked 5days/wk, and grossed 34k. I took a big pay cut my first year as an FO.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Does anyone have details regarding how ATP compensates their instructors? I heard it was really bad but I can't remember the exact numbers. ATP instructors have shiny seminole syndrome which leads to shiny jet syndrome.
in 1992 these instructors had shiny seminole to shiny Brasilia syndrome.

yes, a hungry multiengine instructor at ABC flight school wants to get on with a regional to then get on with a major.

shocking concept, I know
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
Does anyone have details regarding how ATP compensates their instructors? I heard it was really bad but I can't remember the exact numbers. ATP instructors have shiny seminole syndrome which leads to shiny jet syndrome.
Doesn't every RJ pilot has some amount of SJS or they wouldn't take a low wage job? I'm sure this new flying will attract a lot of new hires to RAH who will also not want a new contract so they can continue to enjoy the job security and growth that comes with a sub par contract.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingV
So if ATP is going to keep instructors for 1500 hours while not enrolling anybody and increasing prices, RAH is gonna have to fill 50 jets with pilots, and AMR is retiring hundreds of pilots every year for the foreseeable future, how the **** is there any chance that there would be another crap contract? I understand that this opens the door for more mainline flying to go to a low compensation regional, but I would like to think that this gives pilots some leverage. Am I totally off?

Plus, that is one ugly paint job.
Yes you are off. There is absolutely NO pilot shortage. When a decent job comes up, pilots will come out from the woodwork to take it. Rah is not decent, sub par at best.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Not looking that way. Hiring has almost come to a complete halt at XJT and Skywest while over here at XJT our MECs are too busy arguing about PBS systems. Meanwhile Eagle is hiring 600+ and Republic 800+.
Waaaah! They stole my upgrade!
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Yes you are off. There is absolutely NO pilot shortage. When a decent job comes up, pilots will come out from the woodwork to take it. Rah is not decent, sub par at best.
Sub par is what you should look for when choosing a regional. Mainline will not let you have your cake and eat it too. If you get a leading edge contract with a good pay scale and lots of soft money you will shoot yourself in the foot and be back on the street after your company loses bids for flying and eventually shuts down and you will have to start over at the company that took your flying. The worst is the best! Put your time in and move on.
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