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Old 01-18-2013, 04:40 PM
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Accidently posted twice. Disregard this post!
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Do some research and find out who was in office when the last Legacy airline struck. (NWA) Do the same for Comair. And the same for Spirit. And the same for Amerijet. Then tell me how many strikes were allowed from 2001-2008. Then think about your statement.
According to this 4 under W....

Airline Strikes Under the RLA

only 2 under barry.....
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Knight
According to this 4 under W....

Airline Strikes Under the RLA

only 2 under barry.....
Research more. Pre 9-11. Specifically 1998 & 3/01. Who was in office 1993-2001? And then how many we're allowed from 2001-2008?
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Originally Posted by mattanah
So at what point can the pilots strike? It seems obvious that management is abusing the process here.
You're nowhere close. You're in mediation. Mediation would have to end and you'd have be proffered arbitration and one side would have to decline to start a 30 day clock. And that doesn't usually happen until you're really close, but just can't get there.

Or...the mediator could park you indefinately to get people to wake up and act sensible...

Or...the mediator could say you are too far apart, end mediation and put you back to direct bargaining...starting the process all over again...

There are more pieces and nuances, but it isn't worth getting into all that.

Bottom line...all the yakking about strike, release and other things is just that...yakking. The NMB doesn't give a rip about playing favorites with management or labor...they want the deal done. They don't suffer fools well and have very creative ways of making the point.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Research more. Pre 9-11. Specifically 1998 & 3/01. Who was in office 1993-2001? And then how many we're allowed from 2001-2008?
1998 (NW) and 2001 (Comair) were under 2 different presidents... W took office 1/20/2001, more than 2 months before the Comair strike began.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
You're nowhere close. You're in mediation. Mediation would have to end and you'd have be proffered arbitration and one side would have to decline to start a 30 day clock. And that doesn't usually happen until you're really close, but just can't get there.
Umm...did you read the original post before posting that? The mediator just ended mediation. That's the whole point of this thread.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:26 PM
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Umm...did you read the original post before posting that? The mediator just ended mediation. That's the whole point of this thread.
That's my question. Did mediation end, or just take an extended break? The "article" doesnt really say. My guess is that the teamsters would refuse arbitration. This company is soooo overdue for a strike.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivinTheDash
1998 (NW) and 2001 (Comair) were under 2 different presidents... W took office 1/20/2001, more than 2 months before the Comair strike began.
Yup. You're correct. My mistake. However, I stand by original point.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Yup. You're correct. My mistake. However, I stand by original point.
You haven't made one yet...
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky
Umm...did you read the original post before posting that? The mediator just ended mediation. That's the whole point of this thread.
As stated in another of my posts, I don't think reading comprehension is his strong suit.
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