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08-05-2012, 09:02 PM
#21
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BS flag...half the distance to the goal on that one buddy. If they aren't taking the upgrade there must be a story for that one. There are lifer FO's here for one reason or another, but everyone who can hold it is upgrading right now....I don't know why anyone would dis a Red Team member....we are all in the suck together here. Besides, if anything I feel for the Camp CHQ bro's, especially the ones at ORD.
08-06-2012, 05:16 AM
#22
Turd Ferguson
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: The low pay seat
Posts: 96
Remember, FO's cant cross certificates to FO on another certificate either. If you're at CHQ, stuck there as an FO, til you can hold a captain slot on another certificate (that means people JUNIOR to you are on other certificates, with better routes, schedules, more days off, but same pay)
08-06-2012, 05:34 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Emb170man
??? If they are senior enough to upgrade, why don't they? As a senior 170 FO who could upgrade to the Q or the 145 now, I must say that I don't see disrespect being given to anyone wearing a red, blue, or grey badge.
One of my best friends is a CHQ FO and he tells me a lot about how the FOs look down on the 145 guys and as he puts it "they play for the blue team".
Just last week, I had a commuter 170 FO sit there in the Jumpseat and talk crap all over the CHQ guys.. I turned to my captain and we both wanted to smack this guy.
I'm just saying what I see and hear... I'm not trying to put anyone down or bad mouth y'alls situation.
08-06-2012, 06:31 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by Emb170man
??? If they are senior enough to upgrade, why don't they? As a senior 170 FO who could upgrade to the Q or the 145 now, I must say that I don't see disrespect being given to anyone wearing a red, blue, or grey badge.
One of my best friends is a CHQ FO and he tells me a lot about how the FOs look down on the 145 guys and as he puts it "they play for the blue team".
Just last week, I had a commuter 170 FO sit there in the Jumpseat and talk crap all over the CHQ guys.. I turned to my captain and we both wanted to smack this guy.
I'm just saying what I see and hear... I'm not trying to put anyone down or bad mouth y'alls situation.
08-06-2012, 06:37 AM
#25
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08-06-2012, 06:42 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
I still think you're not getting it. You CAN jump certificates for an upgrade. If your "friend" hasn't upgraded, he can't hold it or is choosing to bypass it.
When I originally posted and mentioned upgrades, all I was pointing out was that there is a number of CHQ FO's who have been at an RAH subsidiary longer than the new upgrades at YX and S5..
08-06-2012, 07:20 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
I still think you're not getting it. You CAN jump certificates for an upgrade. If your "friend" hasn't upgraded, he can't hold it or is choosing to bypass it.
08-06-2012, 07:36 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
No, there aren't any CHQ FO's that have have been here longer than the new upgrades at YX and S5. Scratching my head, but maybe you're referring to a few of the former Midwest guys that actually took the recall and are CA's.
08-06-2012, 08:39 AM
#29
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Position: B-73N FO
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
No, there aren't any CHQ FO's that have have been here longer than the new upgrades at YX and S5. Scratching my head, but maybe you're referring to a few of the former Midwest guys that actually took the recall and are CA's.
Who knows.. I suppose my information from him may just be false.
08-06-2012, 02:18 PM
#30
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A few of my best friends are on the CHQ certificate. I've been on the YX and S5 certificates and I'd say over half the Captains I fly with are former CHQ. I've never seen any air of superiority, nor would it be tolerated. I can't imagine a FO trash talking CHQ without getting an earful from a Captain.
I think your friend might be suffering from a Napoleon Complex. I treat pilots from the red team the same way I treat blue & green team members. We're all eating the same poop sandwich.
I think your friend might be suffering from a Napoleon Complex. I treat pilots from the red team the same way I treat blue & green team members. We're all eating the same poop sandwich.
Last edited by Oskeewowow; 08-06-2012 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Un-gentlemanly language
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