Republic verses Express Jet????
07-21-2012, 08:04 AM
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If you do come to RAH I would recommend the RW cert, DCA and PHL are relatively stable and S5 ATL is not. I did hear a rumor of a JAX base not too long ago which could be complete bs or it could open tomorrow and become our biggest base overnight.
07-21-2012, 12:15 PM
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All you have to do is turn down the ERJ class if offered to you. Also it's very easy to swap bases if he really wanted ATL.
07-21-2012, 04:54 PM
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Lets make it a math problem! 
Q: Chances of ATL, given that you are offered an interview at republic.
A: Lets make N = given offer of employement r = given S5 class w= awarded ATL.
Whereas n= 70% (thats the average offer rate I have heard, 7 out of 10 interviewees have been offered job) r = 1/3 or .3333 (equal chance of RP, S5 or CHQ) w= .05 (whereas chances of getting IND = 30%, CMH = 30%, LGA = 30% ATL 5% ORD 5%)
.70*.33*.05 = .011 or 1%
A= 1% chance of getting ATL given you are offered an interview by Republic Airways holdings.
Q: Chances of ATL, given that you are offered an interview at republic.
A: Lets make N = given offer of employement r = given S5 class w= awarded ATL.
Whereas n= 70% (thats the average offer rate I have heard, 7 out of 10 interviewees have been offered job) r = 1/3 or .3333 (equal chance of RP, S5 or CHQ) w= .05 (whereas chances of getting IND = 30%, CMH = 30%, LGA = 30% ATL 5% ORD 5%)
.70*.33*.05 = .011 or 1%
A= 1% chance of getting ATL given you are offered an interview by Republic Airways holdings.
Ouch.
07-21-2012, 05:16 PM
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Already took care of it on the bottom of page one, boss. I know it's become an APC cliche, but it really is worth a read for any and all prospective new hires. That situation's going to get worse before it gets better. And at least if you go XJT, their bidding system would allow you to bid ATL in seniority, and not have to cross your fingers and toes hoping to get hired onto the right certificate.
07-21-2012, 07:52 PM
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I know noting about Expressjet but have been at Republic (Chautauqua) for a little over 3 weeks and can say I am not impressed at all. In fact I am very disappointed. It seems everything is the absolute bare bones minimum. I was shocked when I found out the majority of airplanes don't have ACARS. No electronic weight and balance. You have to spin the wheel and do a manual W/B each and every leg. I don't mean to complain here but in this day and age we're pulling out a calculator and writing on a piece of paper for W/B when computers are so available with programs that take most of the error out? Have to call back to give your out and off times. With an operation this big it is disappointing not to have an ACARS capability.
The POH is a POS. Almost impossible to figure out what the flows are. Even had one of their check airman tell me the POH is a POS. It seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Seniority don't mean $hit when it comes to training. You would think if there were an odd number the senior guy/gal would get a room to their self. Nope. I guess they draw names out of hat. As far as I can tell seniority is irrelevant up to this point.
I was trying to beat the rush out the door at Eagle but was concerned that I would be going out of the frying pan into the fire. Maybe that was a valid concern. Too soon to come to a conclusion but it's not looking good.
If you were to compare airlines to department stores I would say AA, US Airways, Delta, etc. would be equivalent to Khols and JC Penneys. Eagle to Wal Mart and Chautaqua to Dollar General.
If this doesn't work out I am through with aviation. These companies have exploited the hell out of our love for the profession.
I hope I haven't stepped on anyones toes with my opinion. If you fly for Republic and are happy I am happy for you. I did meet a great bunch of guys and gals that were also staying at our hotel in Indy that were upgrading. They were extremely helpful and friendly and fun to be around. I do think the airlines do a good job at hiring the right types of people to fly their airplanes.
In my best Forrest Gump voice, "And that's all I have to say about that."
The POH is a POS. Almost impossible to figure out what the flows are. Even had one of their check airman tell me the POH is a POS. It seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Seniority don't mean $hit when it comes to training. You would think if there were an odd number the senior guy/gal would get a room to their self. Nope. I guess they draw names out of hat. As far as I can tell seniority is irrelevant up to this point.
I was trying to beat the rush out the door at Eagle but was concerned that I would be going out of the frying pan into the fire. Maybe that was a valid concern. Too soon to come to a conclusion but it's not looking good.
If you were to compare airlines to department stores I would say AA, US Airways, Delta, etc. would be equivalent to Khols and JC Penneys. Eagle to Wal Mart and Chautaqua to Dollar General.
If this doesn't work out I am through with aviation. These companies have exploited the hell out of our love for the profession.
I hope I haven't stepped on anyones toes with my opinion. If you fly for Republic and are happy I am happy for you. I did meet a great bunch of guys and gals that were also staying at our hotel in Indy that were upgrading. They were extremely helpful and friendly and fun to be around. I do think the airlines do a good job at hiring the right types of people to fly their airplanes.
In my best Forrest Gump voice, "And that's all I have to say about that."
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07-22-2012, 02:18 AM
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I know noting about Expressjet but have been at Republic (Chautauqua) for a little over 3 weeks and can say I am not impressed at all. In fact I am very disappointed. It seems everything is the absolute bare bones minimum. I was shocked when I found out the majority of airplanes don't have ACARS. No electronic weight and balance. You have to spin the wheel and do a manual W/B each and every leg. I don't mean to complain here but in this day and age we're pulling out a calculator and writing on a piece of paper for W/B when computers are so available with programs that take most of the error out? Have to call back to give your out and off times. With an operation this big it is disappointing not to have an ACARS capability.
The POH is a POS. Almost impossible to figure out what the flows are. Even had one of their check airman tell me the POH is a POS. It seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Seniority don't mean $hit when it comes to training. You would think if there were an odd number the senior guy/gal would get a room to their self. Nope. I guess they draw names out of hat. As far as I can tell seniority is irrelevant up to this point.
I was trying to beat the rush out the door at Eagle but was concerned that I would be going out of the frying pan into the fire. Maybe that was a valid concern. Too soon to come to a conclusion but it's not looking good.
If you were to compare airlines to department stores I would say AA, US Airways, Delta, etc. would be equivalent to Khols and JC Penneys. Eagle to Wal Mart and Chautaqua to Dollar General.
If this doesn't work out I am through with aviation. These companies have exploited the hell out of our love for the profession.
I hope I haven't stepped on anyones toes with my opinion. If you fly for Republic and are happy I am happy for you. I did meet a great bunch of guys and gals that were also staying at our hotel in Indy that were upgrading. They were extremely helpful and friendly and fun to be around. I do think the airlines do a good job at hiring the right types of people to fly their airplanes.
In my best Forrest Gump voice, "And that's all I have to say about that."
The POH is a POS. Almost impossible to figure out what the flows are. Even had one of their check airman tell me the POH is a POS. It seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Seniority don't mean $hit when it comes to training. You would think if there were an odd number the senior guy/gal would get a room to their self. Nope. I guess they draw names out of hat. As far as I can tell seniority is irrelevant up to this point.
I was trying to beat the rush out the door at Eagle but was concerned that I would be going out of the frying pan into the fire. Maybe that was a valid concern. Too soon to come to a conclusion but it's not looking good.
If you were to compare airlines to department stores I would say AA, US Airways, Delta, etc. would be equivalent to Khols and JC Penneys. Eagle to Wal Mart and Chautaqua to Dollar General.
If this doesn't work out I am through with aviation. These companies have exploited the hell out of our love for the profession.
I hope I haven't stepped on anyones toes with my opinion. If you fly for Republic and are happy I am happy for you. I did meet a great bunch of guys and gals that were also staying at our hotel in Indy that were upgrading. They were extremely helpful and friendly and fun to be around. I do think the airlines do a good job at hiring the right types of people to fly their airplanes.
In my best Forrest Gump voice, "And that's all I have to say about that."
Lack of ACARS in the 145 will be the least of your worries here. Pay, QOL, and getting royally abused on reserve are much bigger issues. Not disagreeing with your wealth of RAH experience, but I'd say the fun is just beginning.
Can't speak to ExpressJet other than they have a better contract. Sounds like you will be commuting from JAX so the ATL CRJ base would probably work best for you. Commuting to an out station base sucks.
Good luck, and oh by the way www.rahcontractnow.org
07-22-2012, 11:56 AM
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Actually day one hour one was an "uh oh" moment. Was told the class was supposed to be 30 but only 8 showed up. That made the hair on the back of my neck stand up and made me question my decision.
When you've been around as long as I have (over half a century) you quickly learn to see the "red flags." 3 weeks is plenty of time to form an initial opinion. I knew my wife of 31 years just 2 weeks before I popped the question.
When you've been around as long as I have (over half a century) you quickly learn to see the "red flags." 3 weeks is plenty of time to form an initial opinion. I knew my wife of 31 years just 2 weeks before I popped the question.
07-22-2012, 01:24 PM
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Actually day one hour one was an "uh oh" moment. Was told the class was supposed to be 30 but only 8 showed up. That made the hair on the back of my neck stand up and made me question my decision.
When you've been around as long as I have (over half a century) you quickly learn to see the "red flags." 3 weeks is plenty of time to form an initial opinion. I knew my wife of 31 years just 2 weeks before I popped the question.
When you've been around as long as I have (over half a century) you quickly learn to see the "red flags." 3 weeks is plenty of time to form an initial opinion. I knew my wife of 31 years just 2 weeks before I popped the question.
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