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07-04-2012, 09:24 PM

#61

WeaselBoy

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Originally Posted by seafeye

I think operating out of a class B airport, listening to what is happening a PIC can make a sensible decision to withhold use of strobes.

But, what about the guy who isn't where he reported where he is? What about the aircraft the controller forgot/ doesn't know about? What about the aircraft on the other tower frequency?

The biggest reason to turn them on is for the things you don't know about.

07-04-2012, 09:33 PM

#62

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Originally Posted by WeaselBoy

Clearly you're an inferior pilot if these unknowns bother you. The people who have perfect situational awareness, and who work in an environment where nobody ever makes a mistake don't need any bloody strobes.

*sarcasm* in case anybody missed it.

Incidentally, I've never been bothered by anti-collision lights in IMC. Maybe it's something that affects each of us to different degrees. When I'm in IMC, I'm looking at the instruments, so I'm missing the light show outside anyway.

07-05-2012, 02:22 AM

#63

bernouli

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Originally Posted by DENpilot

Man, turn the freaking strobes on. Safety before courtesy. If I was your FO, we'd be having this discussion in the CP's office if you refused to comply with our company manual WHICH TRUMPS THE AIM! I suppose you can make a "sensible decision" on when to comply with use of your seatbelt too? What about RAs? Suppose it's clear blue and unlimited and you see the other airplane, do you comply? Come on captain wonderful, tell me where you draw the line between compliance and non?

Get over yourself. You think you're doing everyone a favor, and your not.

what would you say when you called the CP?

07-05-2012, 02:38 AM

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skyxbomb

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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

How did you pass your eye exam for your medical without your peripheral vision?? You go to one of those 5 min in and out AME establishments? Jk :P

Or do you fly a heavy where the strobes are wayyyy back there?

07-05-2012, 02:40 AM

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skyxbomb

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Somebody start this thread under majors. I want to hear from the pros!

07-05-2012, 05:51 AM

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sizzlechest

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SOP violations must not be a very big thing for the posters here..... but who needs an SOP anyway... go get some ointment for your vah-jjjjean! great success?

07-05-2012, 06:17 AM

#67

sticky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DENpilot

Man, turn the freaking strobes on. Safety before courtesy. If I was your FO, we'd be having this discussion in the CP's office if you refused to comply with our company manual WHICH TRUMPS THE AIM! I suppose you can make a "sensible decision" on when to comply with use of your seatbelt too? What about RAs? Suppose it's clear blue and unlimited and you see the other airplane, do you comply? Come on captain wonderful, tell me where you draw the line between compliance and non?

Get over yourself. You think you're doing everyone a favor, and your not.

..good god dude! FOs like you scare me....i hope one day the tables are eversed on you.

07-05-2012, 06:28 AM

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paxhauler85

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For the record, there are only OFF/ON positions for the strobes on the offending aircraft.

The Airbus and MD-80 are the only 2 aircraft I've heard of with auto strobes.

07-05-2012, 06:31 AM

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frankwasright

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Originally Posted by DENpilot

CAUTION ! We got ourselves a "Check F/O ".Make sure he follows the FOM to-the-letter and have him pulled off the trip when he doesn't.It is thee who needs to get over thyself.

07-05-2012, 06:47 AM

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IBPilot

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Originally Posted by mooney

tell that to the 737 crew or Skywest crew who got landed on by 737 at LAX killing dozens because the controller screwed up and cleared them to land when Skywest was on the runway. Had the 737 seen the strobes of the aircraft on the runway they may have gone around. I believe that is straight out of the NTSB report. How bout not staring at the strobes if it bothers you????? or if you thing they might be turning them on as they take the runway, look away! you don't have to watch them position and hold. My strobes are always on when I take the runway for this very reason, or of someone decides to pull in from of me while I'm doing 130 kts down the runway...that little flash of light might be all that saves the day.

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Originally Posted by Paid2fly

The main cause of that was controller error. That and the fact that back then ATC used to have us sit position and hold on the runway for very long periods of time waiting for departure clearance, and still use that same runway for arriving aircraft.

Well we have a parrot on here! Isn't that all pretty obvious? Of course the MAIN reason was controller error. But as mooney said, even the NTSB said the case may have turned out for the better had they seen a strobe on the runway, vs just a tail nav light that blended in with the centerline lights. So I guess you think we don't need tcas turned on either since midairs are mainly controller error?