Republic Pilots (IBT) Request NMB Release
08-03-2012, 07:16 PM
#153
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 643
They like this little gem. They say it over and over and over. When they are not saying it they are writing it and you can just hear the condescending tone dripping off the paper it was written on.
So, who thought they knew the NMB's answer? Was it the Local or the Airline Division?
You have a "president" that is more interested in getting himself a full-time job with the IBT than he will ever be in getting the rank and file a worthy CBA.
You guys deserve so much better.
Has anyone looked into the process for recalling these appointed leaders, or are you going to let this drag on another year, or two, or three?
The AA FA's were put on ice for over one year. That is more than one year without one meeting with the NMB mediators.
When is your next scheduled mediated session?
08-04-2012, 01:39 AM
#154
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: FO
Posts: 101
I have just loved hearing Moffatt say, at every opportunity over the last month, that 357 wouldn't NEVER have requested a "Pro-Offer" (I "think he meant proffer) of arbitration unless they KNEW the outcome of the request.
Some of CM's quotes:
"The Senior Mediator was convinced months ago that we were at an impasse, but it wasn't until the Company stated they needed more time for their Compensation counter proposal that the "Regular Mediator" became aware that there had arrived at an impasse."
"Dan S. talks to the Mediators and NMM regularly."
"There has NEVER been a time that the NMB went against the Mediator's recommendation"
‘There is a lot going on behind the scene by IBT National that will ensure that we prevail.’ Single quotes representing it’s not a direct quote, I don’t think CM uses the word “prevail.”
I vote to fire the entire Negotiating Committee, including Wilder and recall our "appointed" President (there was no election so one can hardly say he was "elected") and ExCo.
Maybe this time around there will be more than 7 pilots out of our ~2,000, that might be willing to step up for the 7 positions.
CM has been blowing smoke up our bottoms long enough and don't forget he said on a conference call that "He had to take care of his MEA Brothers." Is that why IBT is paying MEA's legal expenses in the Bloch contract arbitration and all other legal matters?
IMO, the ExCo’s false statements (especially from CM), caused immense false expectations, borders on a DFR suit.
That's right, our dues and our two assessments are going to pilots that will displace us.
And, it's my understanding that we had 20 pilots show up at the Shareholder's meeting and 20 show up at LGA, picketed until it started drizzling and went home. Is that true? 40 pilots out of 2,000 participated?
It IS time for action, but I believe that change HAS to begin with dismissing those that led us to believe they actually knew what they were doing on the ExCo and the NC.
Dan S. and Wilder are such good buddies that it makes one wonder what the extent of their relationship is.
EVERYTHING the ExCo has told us has been proven to be a misdirection, overly optimistic or an outright lie.
Some of CM's quotes:
"The Senior Mediator was convinced months ago that we were at an impasse, but it wasn't until the Company stated they needed more time for their Compensation counter proposal that the "Regular Mediator" became aware that there had arrived at an impasse."
"Dan S. talks to the Mediators and NMM regularly."
"There has NEVER been a time that the NMB went against the Mediator's recommendation"
‘There is a lot going on behind the scene by IBT National that will ensure that we prevail.’ Single quotes representing it’s not a direct quote, I don’t think CM uses the word “prevail.”
I vote to fire the entire Negotiating Committee, including Wilder and recall our "appointed" President (there was no election so one can hardly say he was "elected") and ExCo.
Maybe this time around there will be more than 7 pilots out of our ~2,000, that might be willing to step up for the 7 positions.
CM has been blowing smoke up our bottoms long enough and don't forget he said on a conference call that "He had to take care of his MEA Brothers." Is that why IBT is paying MEA's legal expenses in the Bloch contract arbitration and all other legal matters?
IMO, the ExCo’s false statements (especially from CM), caused immense false expectations, borders on a DFR suit.
That's right, our dues and our two assessments are going to pilots that will displace us.
And, it's my understanding that we had 20 pilots show up at the Shareholder's meeting and 20 show up at LGA, picketed until it started drizzling and went home. Is that true? 40 pilots out of 2,000 participated?
It IS time for action, but I believe that change HAS to begin with dismissing those that led us to believe they actually knew what they were doing on the ExCo and the NC.
Dan S. and Wilder are such good buddies that it makes one wonder what the extent of their relationship is.
EVERYTHING the ExCo has told us has been proven to be a misdirection, overly optimistic or an outright lie.
08-04-2012, 07:01 AM
#156
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 781
I showed up to airways terminal two hours early on my commute to show support to you guys. Didn't see anyone picketing. Guys I met at rah are all great people. Wish you guys the best. Raise the bar for the rest of us while other regionals are forced further concessions!!
08-04-2012, 03:39 PM
#157
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Position: B737 - FO
Posts: 23
I have just loved hearing Moffatt say, at every opportunity over the last month, that 357 wouldn't NEVER have requested a "Pro-Offer" (I "think he meant proffer) of arbitration unless they KNEW the outcome of the request.
Some of CM's quotes:
"The Senior Mediator was convinced months ago that we were at an impasse, but it wasn't until the Company stated they needed more time for their Compensation counter proposal that the "Regular Mediator" became aware that there had arrived at an impasse."
"Dan S. talks to the Mediators and NMM regularly."
"There has NEVER been a time that the NMB went against the Mediator's recommendation"
‘There is a lot going on behind the scene by IBT National that will ensure that we prevail.’ Single quotes representing it’s not a direct quote, I don’t think CM uses the word “prevail.”
I vote to fire the entire Negotiating Committee, including Wilder and recall our "appointed" President (there was no election so one can hardly say he was "elected") and ExCo.
Maybe this time around there will be more than 7 pilots out of our ~2,000, that might be willing to step up for the 7 positions.
CM has been blowing smoke up our bottoms long enough and don't forget he said on a conference call that "He had to take care of his MEA Brothers." Is that why IBT is paying MEA's legal expenses in the Bloch contract arbitration and all other legal matters?
IMO, the ExCo’s false statements (especially from CM), caused immense false expectations, borders on a DFR suit.
That's right, our dues and our two assessments are going to pilots that will displace us.
And, it's my understanding that we had 20 pilots show up at the Shareholder's meeting and 20 show up at LGA, picketed until it started drizzling and went home. Is that true? 40 pilots out of 2,000 participated?
It IS time for action, but I believe that change HAS to begin with dismissing those that led us to believe they actually knew what they were doing on the ExCo and the NC.
Dan S. and Wilder are such good buddies that it makes one wonder what the extent of their relationship is.
EVERYTHING the ExCo has told us has been proven to be a misdirection, overly optimistic or an outright lie.
Some of CM's quotes:
"The Senior Mediator was convinced months ago that we were at an impasse, but it wasn't until the Company stated they needed more time for their Compensation counter proposal that the "Regular Mediator" became aware that there had arrived at an impasse."
"Dan S. talks to the Mediators and NMM regularly."
"There has NEVER been a time that the NMB went against the Mediator's recommendation"
‘There is a lot going on behind the scene by IBT National that will ensure that we prevail.’ Single quotes representing it’s not a direct quote, I don’t think CM uses the word “prevail.”
I vote to fire the entire Negotiating Committee, including Wilder and recall our "appointed" President (there was no election so one can hardly say he was "elected") and ExCo.
Maybe this time around there will be more than 7 pilots out of our ~2,000, that might be willing to step up for the 7 positions.
CM has been blowing smoke up our bottoms long enough and don't forget he said on a conference call that "He had to take care of his MEA Brothers." Is that why IBT is paying MEA's legal expenses in the Bloch contract arbitration and all other legal matters?
IMO, the ExCo’s false statements (especially from CM), caused immense false expectations, borders on a DFR suit.
That's right, our dues and our two assessments are going to pilots that will displace us.
And, it's my understanding that we had 20 pilots show up at the Shareholder's meeting and 20 show up at LGA, picketed until it started drizzling and went home. Is that true? 40 pilots out of 2,000 participated?
It IS time for action, but I believe that change HAS to begin with dismissing those that led us to believe they actually knew what they were doing on the ExCo and the NC.
Dan S. and Wilder are such good buddies that it makes one wonder what the extent of their relationship is.
EVERYTHING the ExCo has told us has been proven to be a misdirection, overly optimistic or an outright lie.
If you would have shown up in NY, then there would have been 41 pilots there.
Easy to heckle from the cheap seats.
Maybe you should come have a beer with me sometime, we can talk about your problems. I can help.
08-04-2012, 08:08 PM
#158
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: ERJ-170
Posts: 139
I showed up to airways terminal two hours early on my commute to show support to you guys. Didn't see anyone picketing. Guys I met at rah are all great people. Wish you guys the best. Raise the bar for the rest of us while other regionals are forced further concessions!!
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