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The Juice 05-27-2012 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1198710)
Seriously. This thread has gotten out of hand. One regional group arguing the other group is "taking their flying" and "doing it cheaper."

You were the one banging the "Colgan pilots are taking Pinnacle pilot's flying" drum for the last year :rolleyes:

xjtguy 05-27-2012 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kaptain (Post 1198423)
At the time (2003) it was a industry leading contract and upgrades were two years and no one though there would be such stagnation in the industry. There is no excuse for not having a new contract by now!

It was better than what they had before, but industry leading is a stretch. At that time, ACA, COMAIR, and AWAC had better CBA's than the Republic one.

DC7C 05-27-2012 05:07 PM

Did the IBT swing some flow up at UA as well? Hoffa gets his luggage carried by Obama, seems like it would be a snap? Opps, wrong union.....

ShyGuy 05-27-2012 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1198906)
You were the one banging the "Colgan pilots are taking Pinnacle pilot's flying" drum for the last year :rolleyes:

We were talking about a merger back then. This isn't about a merger. It's a thread where Colgan pilots are trying to call out Republic pilots for being bottom barrel in the industry, and that is funny and ironic.

AxialFlow 05-29-2012 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1198950)
We were talking about a merger back then. This isn't about a merger. It's a thread where Colgan pilots are trying to call out Republic pilots for being bottom barrel in the industry, and that is funny and ironic.

How is it funny or ironic? Even after the concessions, "Colgan's" contract (as bad as it is) is better, relatively speaking, than RAH's. Or did you see this as another opportunity to dig up the past and lash out against those mean old colgan pilots for "takin' yer flyin'!"?

MusicPilot 06-04-2012 11:03 AM

Just an update, RAH's new training contract is now 2yrs 20k. It was 15k but they're throwing the 5k bonus on top.

BoilerUP 06-04-2012 11:05 AM

...that'll certainly help pilot recruitment efforts while 5+ years overdue on a pilot contract...

ShyGuy 06-04-2012 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1199852)
How is it funny or ironic? Even after the concessions, "Colgan's" contract (as bad as it is) is better, relatively speaking, than RAH's. Or did you see this as another opportunity to dig up the past and lash out against those mean old colgan pilots for "takin' yer flyin'!"?

You cannot make this statement because you do not know how about the concessions will be yet for Colgan pilots (the whole 9E group for that matter). BK concessions could be bad enough to put the JCBA to the same level as RAH's current contract, or even worse.

FlyJSH 06-05-2012 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1204705)
You cannot make this statement because you do not know how about the concessions will be yet for Colgan pilots (the whole 9E group for that matter). BK concessions could be bad enough to put the JCBA to the same level as RAH's current contract, or even worse.

Wrong Cinderfella. Management asked for what amounts to roughly a 10% pay cut (hourly plus benefits). Assuming the judge agrees to all that management wants, the Lynx first year CA payrate would be equal to about a fourth or fifth year Colgan Saab rate.


Oh, and don't forget "They took our jobs!" Shy, just forget about PinneColAbba and move on.

flyguy23 06-05-2012 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1199852)
How is it funny or ironic? Even after the concessions, "Colgan's" contract (as bad as it is) is better, relatively speaking, than RAH's. Or did you see this as another opportunity to dig up the past and lash out against those mean old colgan pilots for "takin' yer flyin'!"?


Just curious how you got that. Even the company imposed q400 rates are higher at rah than they are at colgan. They will likely increase further once the process plays out.


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