Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1197886)

Even then, it's dicey at best. Many thought 9E/9L/XJ was the THEE place to be after our contract was ratified. Bottom line: RAH's business model doesn't leave much room for improving pilot QOL. This idea (at the regional level) that one pilot group is going to jack up their end of the house and other's will follow suit is naive. It doesn't mesh with the regional business model and it's why places like Eagle are in the cross-hairs of management.

Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 1197865)

No we do not have rates. Former lynx pilots have been flying them under former lynx rates. That has been grieved and will be heard in july. That fight began before this new Q announcement. The company refused to negotiate due to all the Qs being scheduled to go away. Now negotiations have opened. I love how pilots feel the need to try and trash another pilot group. Its really pathetic. Id somewhat understand if rah just signed a new contract with pituful rates, but thats simply not the case. We've had a strike vote and are in federal mediation to try and achieve an industry leading contract. You can yell and scream about how slow its going and how ineffective negotiations have been, but its the process unfortunately. Cant escape the rla.

Originally Posted by BLEEDBLACKNGOLD (Post 1197854)

Do you even know why the pay rates @RAH are low? The union spent all of it's resources in order to gain 1 master seniority list on the last contract (Republic was originally going to be a Trans States/ Go Jets deal). Chautauqua was the only airline. Shuttle America a separate regional flying Saabs. There wasn't even a hint of larger RJs coming on property because CHQ was scoped to 50 seats or less (AMR). It's a shame that the RAH pilots are still trying to negotiate a contract that expired 6 years ago.

Originally Posted by Kaptain (Post 1198423)

Not true. Bedford stepped in the last week of negotiations because he needed a contract in place to secure financing and deals for E170/175's ....he finished up the pay scales to the 78 seat point and at then in a surprise move, just in case, thru in scales for the 79-99 seat. (Actually an earlier TA with higher pay scales was voted down). At the time (2003) it was a industry leading contract and upgrades were two years and no one though there would be such stagnation in the industry. There is no excuse for not having a new contract by now!

Originally Posted by Kaptain

At the time (2003) it was a industry leading contract

Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1198671)

Well isn't this cute. A bunch of regional pilots arguing who has the better contract...priceless.

Even if you win the special Olympics...

Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 1198671)

Well isn't this cute. A bunch of regional pilots arguing who has the better contract...priceless.

Even if you win the special Olympics...

Originally Posted by Kaptain (Post 1198423)

At the time (2003) it was a industry leading contract and upgrades were two years and no one though there would be such stagnation in the industry. There is no excuse for not having a new contract by now!

Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1198504)

"Industry leading contract:confused::eek:"??? That's funny!