Republic Airways to Fly Q400's for UAX
#71
#72
When are we going to stand and be united as a pilot group and stop heading over to the airlines that just put us on furlough? If no one goes over, then they will have no one to fly the planes, sad how they know they can gut an airline and be able to staff another one, that just took your flying, now cheaper because everyone is going to be on first year pay! Sad industry we are in!
A better question would be:
I"s it possible to change the industry for the better while you still work in it?"
#73
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just stop posting, your hysterically paranoid. A ton of guys in these situations are not making lateral moves. Many will move to places like corporate or lcc's. This is just another shot in the foot that the RJs are doing to themselves, they cry they cant hire pilots, yet they do this. Supply/Demand will slap them hard here shortly, thanks to the feds and those colgan pilots in 2008.
You likely will.
My condolences, young lady.
#74
Yes, the lemmings will waddle en masse over to the next carrier their planes are transferred to, to fly them on their same routes as first year pilots starting all over again. That's the future strategy for the regionals........either you do it at your own carrier the same way or we'll just transfer them and you'll do it with another employee badge.
That's why the regional industry (soon to be the majority of the domestic flying in the U.S.) is soon to be a hopeless place to spin your wheels in the mud for the "hope" of moving to a major. The majors will be contracting at the retirement rate to fund this new domestic model and thus the majority of the poor suckers who think they're getting somwhere there, won't.
Well, actually they WILL be getting somewhere everty 4 years or so, just not to a major. More like the plane and routes they just left for first year pay all over again. Man, those airline executives sure have got this pathetic profession nailed. I can't imagine just starting out............what an impending nightmare.
That's why the regional industry (soon to be the majority of the domestic flying in the U.S.) is soon to be a hopeless place to spin your wheels in the mud for the "hope" of moving to a major. The majors will be contracting at the retirement rate to fund this new domestic model and thus the majority of the poor suckers who think they're getting somwhere there, won't.
Well, actually they WILL be getting somewhere everty 4 years or so, just not to a major. More like the plane and routes they just left for first year pay all over again. Man, those airline executives sure have got this pathetic profession nailed. I can't imagine just starting out............what an impending nightmare.
+1 I hate to say it, but I really believe this is going to be true. Only way it will change is if we"pilots"stand together united and put and end to this all. But who am I joking, this will never happen and management knows this. Excatly why I am looking to get out all together.
Confirmed from a recent MEC meeting over here that ExpressJet was offered this flying point blank from UAL. They declined because they determined that it was impossible to even break even when calculating the operating cost of the Qs versus what UAL was willing to pay for the feed. I guess if an airline had much lower operating costs they could swing it, either way its a shame the majors continually force us to lower the bar.
+1 yep this is why I am out! Enjoy the ride fellas; I truly wish everyone the best of luck and best wishes to your families!
#75
My post referenced the idea that all the pilots just come over with the planes and be done with it. With the ****storm that we've gone through lately with our own sli, this severely rubbed me the wrong way; mainly because it's not legal for the pilots to do that without a purchase of the airline and it's cert.
#76
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Republic just posted a job on climbto350 tonight specifically for Q400 pilots out of Denver. They also posted looking for sim instructors.
Guess this is gonna ramp up pretty quick or so they hope?
Republic just posted a job on climbto350 tonight specifically for Q400 pilots out of Denver. They also posted looking for sim instructors.
Guess this is gonna ramp up pretty quick or so they hope?
#78
It wasn't the money. It was the conditions of the DIP loan from delta. Although I imagine RAH can't do it as cheap as colgan and they will probably loose money in the long run.
#79
just stop posting, your hysterically paranoid. A ton of guys in these situations are not making lateral moves. Many will move to places like corporate or lcc's. This is just another shot in the foot that the RJs are doing to themselves, they cry they cant hire pilots, yet they do this. Supply/Demand will slap them hard here shortly, thanks to the feds and those colgan pilots in 2008.
Listen to eaglefly, he speaks the truth.
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