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Old 04-24-2012, 07:57 AM
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If it helps you InsideOut, once upon a time I made the effort to create an account at the local357.org site. That's it. DENIED!

As for "giving money away", I can't disagree with you on that one. Every penny we reluctantly throw at the IBT is a wasted penny. The last thing I want to do is spend my time (or money) pursuing change at IBT. It's more fun to watch the years of dysfunction continue on.

Don't forget that just about every Shiny Airbus pilot at Frontier perceives nearly zero value in IBT and that those same Shiny Airbus pilots primary goal is to watch the IBT (and RAH) become a small speck in the rearview mirror.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulva
If it helps you InsideOut, once upon a time I made the effort to create an account at the local357.org site. That's it. DENIED!

As for "giving money away", I can't disagree with you on that one. Every penny we reluctantly throw at the IBT is a wasted penny. The last thing I want to do is spend my time (or money) pursuing change at IBT. It's more fun to watch the years of dysfunction continue on.

Don't forget that just about every Shiny Airbus pilot at Frontier perceives nearly zero value in IBT and that those same Shiny Airbus pilots primary goal is to watch the IBT (and RAH) become a small speck in the rearview mirror.
So its easier for you to expend your energy and cry about it than do something about it? At least I now we can all see what kind of guy you are.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:21 PM
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Insideout, we are doing something about it. Explaining to you RAH Bro's and Sis's that what you receive from your union is a lot of spin and half truths. One thing I can say about my F9 Brothers and sisters is that if something does not feel right(fishy) we as a group call our union out on it. I do not see that at RAH.
By joining IBT as full fledged members what does that accomplish?
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:28 PM
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Insideout, we are doing something about it. Explaining to you RAH Bro's and Sis's that what you receive from your union is a lot of spin and half truths. One thing I can say about my F9 Brothers and sisters is that if something does not feel right(fishy) we as a group call our union out on it. I do not see that at RAH.
By joining IBT as full fledged members what does that accomplish?
I'm not gonna get caught up in your games anymore, but please don't act like you know anything about our pilot group or union dynamics, because you don't have a clue. You FROBROS have your thoughts about what is going on, but in reality it's usually far from the truth.

No worries though...you'll be separate any day now, right?
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:48 AM
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Tiller,

We know ALL about your pilot group. Aren't they ALL clones of you and other RAHbro APC posters? Arrogant, condescending, insecure, spiteful, immature, childish, entitled, militant, etc.? Requiring that harm be inflicted on whoever happens to be sitting on the other side of the table? Suffering through a life where the world of aviation is your enemy and rule #1 is to deflect blame anywhere but upon yourselves. Blindly following a path of conflict at every corner leaving behind a wake of dysfunction? Everyone seems to owe you guys something, right?

At least some of you guys are starting to question things a little more vocally. I'm impressed that some are questioning whether their negotiating committee is truly speaking for them. Whether your leaderships goal is to burn down the house or actually find a middle ground and fix things?

To all the other lurking RAHbros on board, take comfort in knowing that I am just jacking with with Tiller here. We all know that the vast majority of you are all normal humans working your way through a regional job in hopes of moving on to a much better job in the future. We've got clowns on both sides (believe me!) and this is where they like to play. Good luck in your efforts RAHbros.

Now, before I start to cry is guess I should collect myself and focus my energy on something constructive. I think I'll bust out my Oakley Half-Jackets and give ole 3662forlife a call. The glasses not only make me look really cool, but also help reduce the glare off of my really BIG and SHINY AIRBUS. 3662 might be able to use some extra beer money so I'm going to see if he's got some time to help me polish to a fine sheen.

BTW...Anyone take him up on his invite the other night?

Your #1 FROBRO, Mulva

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Old 04-25-2012, 08:54 AM
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Speaking of FroBros, a little late is better than never as our 2012 Frontier Pilots calendar just arrived from the printers. Check out Mr. April.


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Old 04-25-2012, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulva
Tiller,

We know ALL about your pilot group. Aren't they ALL clones of you and other RAHbro APC posters? Arrogant, condescending, insecure, spiteful, immature, childish, entitled, militant, etc.? Requiring that harm be inflicted on whoever happens to be sitting on the other side of the table? Suffering through a life where the world of aviation is your enemy and rule #1 is to deflect blame anywhere but upon yourselves. Blindly following a path of conflict at every corner leaving behind a wake of dysfunction? Everyone seems to owe you guys something, right?
To each his own...at least you say how you feel. See ya' on the flip side.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:13 PM
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Am I the only one sick of seeing Frontier guys bicker with RAH guys about union nonsense? Beating a dead horse here. Frontier will be sold off soon enough, you guys are somewhat removed from the daily horrors of RAH fixed-fee flying.

Let's keep this thread on track with constructive updates regarding the fixed-fee side of RAH (Shuttle, Republic, Chautauqua).

I am sick of sifting through the B.S. posts of the same few people to find any constructive posts.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:26 PM
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Constructive & APC are like oil & water or RAHbros & FroBros. Not gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by Mulva
Constructive & APC are like oil & water or RAHbros & FroBros. Not gonna happen.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.



Or, probably more accurate (directed at ALL the usual suspects)


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