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05-02-2012, 08:39 PM
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ALPA Files Suit Against Pinnacle Airlines for Violating Labor Law
ALPA filed suit in U.S. District Court on Thursday against Pinnacle management, asserting that Pinnacle management violated the Railway Labor Act by unilaterally implementing pilot bonus programs and thus changing the status quo pay and working conditions of the pilots without first bargaining and reaching agreement with ALPA.
ALPA filed suit in U.S. District Court on Thursday against Pinnacle management, asserting that Pinnacle management violated the Railway Labor Act by unilaterally implementing pilot bonus programs and thus changing the status quo pay and working conditions of the pilots without first bargaining and reaching agreement with ALPA.
05-02-2012, 09:46 PM
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ALPA Files Suit Against Pinnacle Airlines for Violating Labor Law
ALPA filed suit in U.S. District Court on Thursday against Pinnacle management, asserting that Pinnacle management violated the Railway Labor Act by unilaterally implementing pilot bonus programs and thus changing the status quo pay and working conditions of the pilots without first bargaining and reaching agreement with ALPA.
ALPA filed suit in U.S. District Court on Thursday against Pinnacle management, asserting that Pinnacle management violated the Railway Labor Act by unilaterally implementing pilot bonus programs and thus changing the status quo pay and working conditions of the pilots without first bargaining and reaching agreement with ALPA.
05-03-2012, 07:27 AM
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05-03-2012, 08:11 AM
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i think this is the reason why no one has "pulled the trigger" over the bonus thing. Even though it is a status quo violation, i dont think the lawyers are confident thats enough to stand on.
besides...it sounds like this will be small potatoes soon once this mystery evidence is revealed about the LOA 67 deal.
besides...it sounds like this will be small potatoes soon once this mystery evidence is revealed about the LOA 67 deal.
05-03-2012, 05:22 PM
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IBT is shooting blanks lately. First, this weeks PDU (Pay Day Update) that was to put all others to shame. What a dud it turned out to be. Now the "mystery evidence." Will be fun to see the IBT "spin up" the machine to convince their membership that they actually didn't get a recent spanking for being a little loose lipped. More to come on this I am sure. No smoking gun though.
As Tiller would say, "move along, nothing to see here."
As Tiller would say, "move along, nothing to see here."
05-03-2012, 05:58 PM
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IBT is shooting blanks lately. First, this weeks PDU (Pay Day Update) that was to put all others to shame. What a dud it turned out to be. Now the "mystery evidence." Will be fun to see the IBT "spin up" the machine to convince their membership that they actually didn't get a recent spanking for being a little loose lipped. More to come on this I am sure. No smoking gun though.
As Tiller would say, "move along, nothing to see here."
As Tiller would say, "move along, nothing to see here."
05-03-2012, 07:10 PM
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99% of the F9 pilots have never heard of Seabury. If you want to hear what they're like, ask a former Midwest pilot what they think about Seabury and Michael Cox.
There's a great, sad story about what RAH, TPG, Seabury and maybe NWA did to Midwest that no one will ever be able to prove. It's all in one email chain, RAH claims they lost it (they're lying), Seabury admits they have it but will never release it - that's a direct quote from Michael Cox. I'll never understand why that e-mail chain wasn't legally discoverable and how RAH avoided SOX.
Just one more reason that NOBODY should EVER use Arbitrator Eischen again. NEVER accept a single Arbitrator, demand a panel of three Arbitrators.
Is 357 going to walk out on Mediation and strike? That will cost hundreds of thousands. Is everyone ready for yet another assessment, this one could be BIG money, unless National steps up again.
The Company didn't go backwards from their position, just from 357's proposal. Crossing out language isn't the same as taking pay and scheduling rules away. Joke of the day, all RAH wants is status quo - from 2003.
Speaking of things I don't understand, WHY do you have the same negotiation Chair for this contract as you did for the 2003 contract?
Good luck everyone, glad I'm outside of this cluster, not that our time isn't coming.
There's a great, sad story about what RAH, TPG, Seabury and maybe NWA did to Midwest that no one will ever be able to prove. It's all in one email chain, RAH claims they lost it (they're lying), Seabury admits they have it but will never release it - that's a direct quote from Michael Cox. I'll never understand why that e-mail chain wasn't legally discoverable and how RAH avoided SOX.
Just one more reason that NOBODY should EVER use Arbitrator Eischen again. NEVER accept a single Arbitrator, demand a panel of three Arbitrators.
Is 357 going to walk out on Mediation and strike? That will cost hundreds of thousands. Is everyone ready for yet another assessment, this one could be BIG money, unless National steps up again.
The Company didn't go backwards from their position, just from 357's proposal. Crossing out language isn't the same as taking pay and scheduling rules away. Joke of the day, all RAH wants is status quo - from 2003.
Speaking of things I don't understand, WHY do you have the same negotiation Chair for this contract as you did for the 2003 contract?
Good luck everyone, glad I'm outside of this cluster, not that our time isn't coming.
We also know Michael Cox quite well. He was on the UCC during the F9 Bk, along with FAPA. He also single handedly crushed the Frontier pilots during the SLI arbitration. One of his quotes can be found in The Award, at the bottom of page 18 I believe. His testimony was devastating to say the least. I find it very ironic that the IBT's "expert" Robert Mann was forced to go home and edit his slide presentation during the SLI due to the fact that his data was completely inaccurate, while the ALPA witness (Cox) did the most damage.
Not only does the IBT have the same pilots negotiating, they are using Mann for "expert" analysis. Good luck with that gents.
I think Eischen will continue to get work, but this award guaranteed that all future SLIQ's will be decided by a board of arbitrators instead of just one.
As for the "mystery evidence" I think you guys may be setting yourself up for more disappointment.
05-03-2012, 08:51 PM
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Well looking at justia.com really makes it appear that JT and SG may be up to some shenanigans.... what the update failed to mention (of course) is that the IBT actually did win and FAPAInvest will be required to produce financials and have member(s) deposed.... along with the fact that it was only a hand slap but otherwise a sizeable win...
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