Republic Positives?
03-27-2012, 07:23 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 324
Just because you get the right certificate doesn't mean you will get the base you want any time soon. I transferred to the S5 side 6 months ago & I'm not even close to holding the base I want. 4.5 years at this place & I still have to commute out of one of our largest bases to IND or CMH.
03-27-2012, 07:24 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Former XJ, Corporate HS-125
Posts: 153
EVERY airline I know of has a "No Junior Manning" clause, you just have to know where to look. Don't believe me? Looking under your company's alcohol policy is a good place to start! 
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?
Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.
Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*
Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!
To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?
Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.
Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*
Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!
To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?
03-27-2012, 07:27 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: rjfo
Posts: 97
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?
Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.
Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*
Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!
To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?
03-27-2012, 07:38 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,968
03-27-2012, 07:43 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,968
NOT factually accurate. The only way they can pull you from the line and 'force' you to go to counseling is if they have reasonable suspicion. There is not a court in the land that would uphold "having a couple of beers on your day off on a nice afternoon" as reasonable suspicion of an alcohol problem. If they want to go down that road, they better lawyer up. If they try it, they are counting on you not being able to afford the lawsuit or being too chicken sh!t to fight it. Just be sure to keep track of legal expenses and lost pay during so you can include that in the settlement!
03-27-2012, 07:45 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: the correct seat
Posts: 1,422
Let me get this straight...Emma is unwilling to subject herself to the BS that is commuting, and you're criticizing her for that choice?
Good for you Emma, I'd probably do the same thing. Commuting sucks. I'm based at home right now, on reserve. I could hold a line at another base if I commuted, but I'd never do it. No amount of line-holder work rules can make up for the commute. My QOL is 10x better when I'm based at home.
Good for you Emma, I'd probably do the same thing. Commuting sucks. I'm based at home right now, on reserve. I could hold a line at another base if I commuted, but I'd never do it. No amount of line-holder work rules can make up for the commute. My QOL is 10x better when I'm based at home.
03-27-2012, 07:49 AM
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: rjfo
Posts: 97
Simple, here at XJT ACARS notification doesn't count. They have to talk to you face to face or on the phone or you have to log-in and acknowledge the change on the computer (you can look at it without acknowledging it). Scheduling can't prove that you saw the ACARS message. What if the other guy saw it and didn't mention it to you? They can place schedulers at hubs if they want to, that's a fun cat and mouse game.
03-27-2012, 07:51 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: 121 FO
Posts: 61
"Choosing to commute" haha I was in 8 different bases over 3 years. I had no choice to commute. If you go to Republic, you will have to either commute sometime, or quit. Bases open and close at a whim. I am lucky and have been in the same base for the last year now, but......
RAHcontractnow.org says it all right now. Who knows what the future brings, but as it stands
RAHcontractnow.org says it all right now. Who knows what the future brings, but as it stands
03-27-2012, 07:55 AM
#29
Rubber dogsh#t out of HKG
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Senior Seat Cushion Tester Extraordinaire
Posts: 623
Besides, to determine if one needs counseling requires more than that, like DUI's, showing up for duty while under the influence, volunteering yourself etc..
I do agree that not answering is the simplest way to avoid JA, but answering with the beer thing would be more fun!
03-27-2012, 07:55 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 641
EVERY airline I know of has a "No Junior Manning" clause, you just have to know where to look. Don't believe me? Looking under your company's alcohol policy is a good place to start!
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?
Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.
Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*
Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!
To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?
Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.
FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.
Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*
Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!
To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?
Nice job!
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