ColdWhiskey

Don't kid yourself. IBT local 357 is a collection of individual RAH pilots. Virtually 100% of the native RAH pilots CHOSE to be a group calling themselves IBT 357.

How can you have a problem with the IBT, but not with the individual pilots?? Those individual pilots ARE the IBT.

The 'IBTs mission against the Frontier pilots' is coming from ALL those individual pilots, collectively.

I recently received a certified letter from the IBT 357 informing me they were going to require management to terminate my employment if I did not join (or pay dues) to the IBT 357. I view this action no differently, than if each and every one of those 'individual RAH pilots' had handed me that letter instead.

And to you native RAH/IBT 357 pilots, I am and will be professional. I would never deny a jumpseat. But to me, it is personal. I view each of you as a threat to my job and my career (mainly because you ALL just threatened my termination). Don't be surprised or confused, when you meet me in the concourse or crewroom, and I am not greeting you with a smile and a high-five.

SD3Dog

This is the kind of DB I'm talking about. Someone who blames ALL the pilots for what Management and the Union do. Get it through your head. We native RAH pilots have little if any control over what the union does much less Mgmt. I never meet a pilot here that wanted anything to do with F9 or Mdw. As to the union, though they are pilots at our (and now your) union, they only want whats best for everyone. Why do you think the arbitrator took our bid for seniority? FAPA and Mdw wanted to staple us! We bought you not the other way around. I know it stings that a regional bought you but deal with it like a man and thank a RAH native that you still have a pay check. I got a pittance of a Christmas bonus because of the things management has done with all this BS but I don't blame you for it. By your logic I should blame you for taking money out of my pocket? For the record, I don't. Get real, Just be glad there's a fence and deal with it. Its a ****ing airline for God's sake! How can you expect anything different? Pay your dues like everyone else does. When I got furloughed the first thing I got from the IBT was a bill for 125.00. I'm not happy with them either but I pay my dues in hopes that if the **** hits the fan I might still have a job at the end of it all. At least the IBT doesn't have union pilots that get tens of thousands more on their pay check like some FAPA leaders did. Its no wonder FAPA raised such a stink to keep their kicker money. The IBT747 was a bunch of crooks but the new 357 is trying their best to do what they can for US ALL. The only beef with any pilot I would have is if they were a SCAB. Other than that we are all just trying to make a living. Lighten up a little you'll live longer.

MusicPilot

Really? So, if it was FAPA and the RP side didn't pay their dues, and I'm pretty sure all unions require payment, then they should be terminated as well? I was at another carrier and we had guys against the union, hated the union, and everything else, but they still paid thier dues. Also, if anyone is stealing your job then there's nothing to worry about. I believe the Midwest guys have that argument, not F9.

By the way, I thought this thread was about Republic hiring? Why does it always seem to turn into a preschool play yard joust about RP and F9?

likeitis

The inaccuracies in this is astounding. Neither wanted you stapled. It sounds good for your argument but completely false. I can see both arguments on the fairness of the ruling but something that is undeniable is that ruling is a huge blow to the piloting career. You didn't buy YX, you merged with them.

Emb170man

I'm going to leave the fairness arguments alone, but will correct your error. RAH BOUGHT YX... They didn't merge with them, they BOUGHT them... Big Difference!!!

likeitis

The SEC filing states merger. The BOD of repugnant holdings now includes a member of the BOD of YX because of the agreed merger.

Wiscopilot

You are surprised by this offensive letter? You had no idea that your company is a union shop and you are required to pay dues in order to be employed? It is a personal slap in the face to you by each RAH pilot to be asked to pay your mandatory dues.....

FAULTPUSH

Most people here at Frontier feel that it's a slap in the face to pay dues to an organization that is trying to destroy our careers.

SUX4U

Correct me if I am wrong, but dont most of the native RAH pilots have a fire under their ass to abandon ship as quick as possible? Also, with the amount of turmoil created between F9 and RAH pilots now, do you really think many of them are dying to share a flight deck on the Airbus with the very same guys that deny jumpseats or simply refuse to acknowledge them in passing? (I know I know, only a select few). I understand it scares pilots to see the potential of different guys slip infront of them on their aircraft. In reality though when that fence comes down... how many of those guys higher on the list really are going to either still be on property or actually have the desire to share a potential hostile work environment? It may look bad on paper, but the reality might not be anywhere near as bad as some are making it. I hope I am not the only one to have humored this notion.

Oskeewowow

I'm very disappointed to see this thread devolve into the old IBT v. FAPA nonsense.

Back to the original topic of Republic Hiring. In the latest round of negotiations, the company offered a 2% raise for FOs & no increase for captains. My question for you prospective new hires- Do you feel $23.41/hr is fair compensation for sitting in the right seat of a 99 seat jet? The company apparently does. If they're willing to pay you this way, how do you think they'll treat you when it comes to scheduling, work rules, seniority, benefits, etc.?