Republic 190's
10-20-2011, 05:27 AM
#31
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I think their scope is limited to 86 seats, which is where the 175s are and the CRJ-900s. Incredible. Those are nearly the size of the Fokker 100 and the short DC-9s.
All that flying needs to be brought back in house. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to unring that bell.
Scope protection is weak in many contracts because I think most negotiators thought it impossible what would happen. It never occurred to many folks that so much flying would be outsourced.
The clear lesson to be learned is that if something is not specifically prohibited in a contract, it is permitted. If it is not illegal, it is legal.
All that flying needs to be brought back in house. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to unring that bell.
Scope protection is weak in many contracts because I think most negotiators thought it impossible what would happen. It never occurred to many folks that so much flying would be outsourced.
The clear lesson to be learned is that if something is not specifically prohibited in a contract, it is permitted. If it is not illegal, it is legal.
10-20-2011, 06:46 AM
#32
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All jokes aside, would the US SCOPE allow RAH to fly the E190 for them. Of course I don't want to see that, I am just curious how is it that RAH has airplanes that they can't find someone to fly for, is this a corporate tactic to gain leverage over the pilots. I understand that the no one is looking for 50 seaters and that the Q400 fleet is to small (4) to be operated efficiently but just wondering why they are looking to unload 7 Ejets.
03-01-2012, 02:41 PM
#34
Don't need that HUD!
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Republic Airways reports $123 million 4Q loss
Indianapolis-based Republic Airways Holdings Inc. has reported that it lost $123.5 million for the fourth quarter of 2011, compared with a loss of $1.3 million a year earlier, according to a news release.
The latest results included a charge of $191.1 million to reduce the carrying value of certain assets, mainly the company’s 42 owned 37- to 50-seat aircraft, the release said. The company also recorded non-cash charges of about $24.1 million related to the expected return of four leased A319 aircraft in 2012 and about $9 million related to the renegotiation of its E190 purchase order and the expected return of leased Embraer aircraft in 2012.
Operating revenue rose 7.4 percent to $697.8 million, primarily due to an 11 percent increase in revenue from its Frontier Airlines subsidiary.
“We are very pleased with our fourth-quarter results, especially in light of significant fuel price headwinds on our branded operations,” CEO Bryan Bedford said in the news release. “Our restructuring efforts during 2011, coupled with strong unit revenue growth at Frontier, enabled us to produce significantly improved ex-item results this quarter, in spite of more than $35 million of increased fuel costs.”
The latest results included a charge of $191.1 million to reduce the carrying value of certain assets, mainly the company’s 42 owned 37- to 50-seat aircraft, the release said. The company also recorded non-cash charges of about $24.1 million related to the expected return of four leased A319 aircraft in 2012 and about $9 million related to the renegotiation of its E190 purchase order and the expected return of leased Embraer aircraft in 2012.
Operating revenue rose 7.4 percent to $697.8 million, primarily due to an 11 percent increase in revenue from its Frontier Airlines subsidiary.
“We are very pleased with our fourth-quarter results, especially in light of significant fuel price headwinds on our branded operations,” CEO Bryan Bedford said in the news release. “Our restructuring efforts during 2011, coupled with strong unit revenue growth at Frontier, enabled us to produce significantly improved ex-item results this quarter, in spite of more than $35 million of increased fuel costs.”
03-01-2012, 03:24 PM
#35
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they wrote down the value of the 145's they owned. they had them listed at above current market value and wrote them down to market value. basically they are trying to show a loss so they dont have to pay the pilots (or any other employee group) a liveable wage
03-02-2012, 06:51 AM
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How many 190's on the property and anyone have any ideas as to their future considering the impending sale/transfer of F9? (since F9 is the only airline that they can currently fly them as a FFD)
03-02-2012, 10:42 AM
#37
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If F9 is sold (my bet is some shell game with F9 "sold" to current shareholders) then there will be an at risk contract for the 190 flying. More info in the 4Q earnings call @rjet.com
03-02-2012, 11:48 AM
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While we're at it, why not start flying some Airbuses for US Airways. I bet they could find a company willing to fly the 330 and probably even the 767. Why have pilots at all at US Airways. They're so pesky.
I think all flying should be flown by the lowest bidder and the brand names like United and US Airways and American should just be shells with all operations outsourced. China could bring in their tens of thousands of qualified pilots (trained at US schools) and fly under Chinese rules. Americans will love getting the most bang for their buck. And they won't have those damn unions mucking things up with annoying 'regulations' that involve safety. Damn union pilots with their demands like being paid and having days off. Seriously, who needs that if we can get a cheaper supplier of labor? Bring on the A330!
Those pesky pilots and their scope clauses..... sheesh.
I think all flying should be flown by the lowest bidder and the brand names like United and US Airways and American should just be shells with all operations outsourced. China could bring in their tens of thousands of qualified pilots (trained at US schools) and fly under Chinese rules. Americans will love getting the most bang for their buck. And they won't have those damn unions mucking things up with annoying 'regulations' that involve safety. Damn union pilots with their demands like being paid and having days off. Seriously, who needs that if we can get a cheaper supplier of labor? Bring on the A330!
Those pesky pilots and their scope clauses..... sheesh.
Fascinating to watch the little creatures scurrying about like that........
03-02-2012, 12:17 PM
#39
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Sorry guys but nobody is going to buy Frontier. That said RAH may be able to give it away so that it they won't have to throw more money in the hole. Sorry to all Frontier people but the end is near. "cue somber music here"...
03-02-2012, 01:56 PM
#40
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maybe not somber enough, but you gotta admit it's a great song.
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