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Old 07-16-2023, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by QRH Bingo
My guess for 18 months would be around 500 overall. YTD is around 250 overall with a stabilizing trend. The FO/CA split was around +400 at its peak and that's dropped to just around +100. Flying hours is not that much less now than 18 months ago I believe, but I don't currently have hard numbers for that.
Is that shrinkage or just attrition? Attrition can be offset by new pilots coming on board (though I know for the last 7 months of so that’s been very minimal). When I left the split was about +650 (+/-) FO. Total pilot group was roughly 2100 (1400/700) when I left. Company needs to shrink to stay afloat. If they can’t maintain CA they need to lower their expectation of how many pilots may want to stay more than 3 years and run with that.
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Old 07-16-2023, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1
Is that shrinkage or just attrition? Attrition can be offset by new pilots coming on board (though I know for the last 7 months of so that’s been very minimal). When I left the split was about +650 (+/-) FO. Total pilot group was roughly 2100 (1400/700) when I left. Company needs to shrink to stay afloat. If they can’t maintain CA they need to lower their expectation of how many pilots may want to stay more than 3 years and run with that.
Total pilot group Feb '23: 2190
Total pilot group July '23: 1959
Net loss: 231 in 5 months. Most of that loss is Captains. Number of CA to FO projected to be roughly even by September.
I don't have the figures to reference but I believe this time last year we were closer to 2500 pilots.
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