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Old 09-22-2021, 11:13 AM
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Old 09-22-2021, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
Don't let YX fanboy and cheerleader Andy lead you to believe that we're close to a new contract. The truth is that we are nowhere near a new contract. It's been crickets from the NC, and per the last update, the majority of the articles haven't even started negotiations.

We won't see a new contract until early 2023 at B.E.S.T

I hope I am not too out of line here, but Andy makes some good points when he posts and he generally seems even-keeled. Respectfully, your responses come across as upset and emotional, and I think your points would be better taken if that were not the case. Honestly, it’s hard to believe from your posts that you work for Republic.

In any case, I am looking at the strengths and weaknesses of all the regionals. While I am admittedly more focused on those in the NYC area or commutable from them, and while YX has room for improvement, the training center news seems like a really smart move. It’s forward thinking, which is refreshing after seeing how many airlines operate.

While it’s probably a long way down the road, it will likely significantly reduce costs, streamline their operation, and generally improve quality of life for the trainees and others. It’s a long term play which I don’t see as competing with the direct compensation of pilots. Two completely different parts of operation, balance sheet, etc. Having said that, I know nothing about Indianapolis, its suburbs, the master plan, and what the specifics of the tax breaks are. But clearly they have a plan, which speaks volumes.

As someone who is considering republic in the near term (who likely won’t see the benefit of this training center), to me, it only makes management look smarter and the better choice as far as regionals are concerned.

Just my two cents.
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Old 09-23-2021, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NewCareer
I hope I am not too out of line here, but Andy makes some good points when he posts and he generally seems even-keeled. Respectfully, your responses come across as upset and emotional, and I think your points would be better taken if that were not the case. Honestly, it’s hard to believe from your posts that you work for Republic.

In any case, I am looking at the strengths and weaknesses of all the regionals. While I am admittedly more focused on those in the NYC area or commutable from them, and while YX has room for improvement, the training center news seems like a really smart move. It’s forward thinking, which is refreshing after seeing how many airlines operate.

While it’s probably a long way down the road, it will likely significantly reduce costs, streamline their operation, and generally improve quality of life for the trainees and others. It’s a long term play which I don’t see as competing with the direct compensation of pilots. Two completely different parts of operation, balance sheet, etc. Having said that, I know nothing about Indianapolis, its suburbs, the master plan, and what the specifics of the tax breaks are. But clearly they have a plan, which speaks volumes.

As someone who is considering republic in the near term (who likely won’t see the benefit of this training center), to me, it only makes management look smarter and the better choice as far as regionals are concerned.

Just my two cents.
And this type of interest is exactly what management was hoping for. There's no need for additional pay to attract new hires when they're starry-eyed over a new training center.

LOL
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Originally Posted by NewCareer
I hope I am not too out of line here, but Andy makes some good points when he posts and he generally seems even-keeled. Respectfully, your responses come across as upset and emotional, and I think your points would be better taken if that were not the case. Honestly, it’s hard to believe from your posts that you work for Republic.

In any case, I am looking at the strengths and weaknesses of all the regionals. While I am admittedly more focused on those in the NYC area or commutable from them, and while YX has room for improvement, the training center news seems like a really smart move. It’s forward thinking, which is refreshing after seeing how many airlines operate.

While it’s probably a long way down the road, it will likely significantly reduce costs, streamline their operation, and generally improve quality of life for the trainees and others. It’s a long term play which I don’t see as competing with the direct compensation of pilots. Two completely different parts of operation, balance sheet, etc. Having said that, I know nothing about Indianapolis, its suburbs, the master plan, and what the specifics of the tax breaks are. But clearly they have a plan, which speaks volumes.

As someone who is considering republic in the near term (who likely won’t see the benefit of this training center), to me, it only makes management look smarter and the better choice as far as regionals are concerned.

Just my two cents.
Let me remind you that Republic is still a regional. It’s all the same. Don’t get caught up with training center shining objects. How do you how airlines operate when you are still outside looking in to trying to figure out where to work. I am not here to **** on YX but don’t get caught up with sunshine and rainbows and thunderstorms on the other end. Truth is always in the middle. Since you are looking for an airline with a NE bases, Republic and Endeavor should be who you are looking at in opinion.
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Old 09-23-2021, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FltCtrlNoDsptch
And this type of interest is exactly what management was hoping for. There's no need for additional pay to attract new hires when they're starry-eyed over a new training center.

LOL
When do you leave for Envoy?
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Old 09-23-2021, 08:06 AM
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When looking at a company, the training center should carry as much weight in the decision making process as which inflight snacks the company serves on-board. Like others have said, it’s a regional. Get in, get your time, and gtfo. Especially with the amount of hiring coming up. Now, back to my stroopwafels.
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Old 09-23-2021, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SunDevilPilot
When looking at a company, the training center should carry as much weight in the decision making process as which inflight snacks the company serves on-board. Like others have said, it’s a regional. Get in, get your time, and gtfo. Especially with the amount of hiring coming up. Now, back to my stroopwafels.
They aren't stroopwafels unless you get them in Amsterdam.....
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Originally Posted by NewCareer
I hope I am not too out of line here, but Andy makes some good points when he posts and he generally seems even-keeled. Respectfully, your responses come across as upset and emotional, and I think your points would be better taken if that were not the case. Honestly, it’s hard to believe from your posts that you work for Republic.

In any case, I am looking at the strengths and weaknesses of all the regionals. While I am admittedly more focused on those in the NYC area or commutable from them, and while YX has room for improvement, the training center news seems like a really smart move. It’s forward thinking, which is refreshing after seeing how many airlines operate.

While it’s probably a long way down the road, it will likely significantly reduce costs, streamline their operation, and generally improve quality of life for the trainees and others. It’s a long term play which I don’t see as competing with the direct compensation of pilots. Two completely different parts of operation, balance sheet, etc. Having said that, I know nothing about Indianapolis, its suburbs, the master plan, and what the specifics of the tax breaks are. But clearly they have a plan, which speaks volumes.

As someone who is considering republic in the near term (who likely won’t see the benefit of this training center), to me, it only makes management look smarter and the better choice as far as regionals are concerned.

Just my two cents.
Please do not choose a regional based on the training center.. contract and bases should be the highest priority. Not where you’ll spend 4 days a year after initial.
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Old 09-23-2021, 11:16 AM
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I realize it’s still a regional, and I get that the name of the game is get in, and get out by moving to the next goal ASAP. If I could skip the regionals, I would in a heartbeat.

It must have not been completely obvious from my post, but yeah, I am looking at regionals that will allow me to be based in NYC. Contract is a close second. Republic and Endeavor are both at the top of the list.

By no means am I starry eyed or even excited about it, and if that’s what you got from my post, I must not be that articulate. As I said before, I won’t even benefit from it. Just saying it does, in my opinion, reflect well on the company, generally speaking.

I just think it’s funny that anyone would try to spin this as a bad thing for the pilots or company because I don’t think it is. And I certainly haven’t heard anyone make that case in previous posts. But now is your chance!
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Originally Posted by NewCareer
I realize it’s still a regional, and I get that the name of the game is get in, and get out by moving to the next goal ASAP. If I could skip the regionals, I would in a heartbeat.

It must have not been completely obvious from my post, but yeah, I am looking at regionals that will allow me to be based in NYC. Contract is a close second. Republic and Endeavor are both at the top of the list.

By no means am I starry eyed or even excited about it, and if that’s what you got from my post, I must not be that articulate. As I said before, I won’t even benefit from it. Just saying it does, in my opinion, reflect well on the company, generally speaking.

I just think it’s funny that anyone would try to spin this as a bad thing for the pilots or company because I don’t think it is. And I certainly haven’t heard anyone make that case in previous posts. But now is your chance!
I wouldn’t say that it’s a bad thing. Nor have I got that vibe from reading these posts. But it appears to be more of a recruiting tool than anything else. I don’t think people already on property will benefit much unless money is freed up from streamlining training and associated costs for contract improvements. And because most regionals are scrambling to stay ahead of attrition any money saved will probably get thrown at new talent in the form of bonuses.
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