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Old 09-10-2021, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fm0Bm
No regional contract is worth commuting to vs living in base at another.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that, but choosing a regional solely because of base is a huge risk at best. Unwise either way.
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Old 09-11-2021, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
no regional work rule is worth commuting for if there is a drive to work option available.
I think I'm with you on this one, with possibly one exception. Airport reserve. Very glad we don't have that here! (caveat, I don't know who does have this or not in the regional world)

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..but choosing a regional solely because of base is a huge risk at best. Unwise either way.
Amen. I don't think I'd ever move for a regional base unless no regional had one in my area. However, making the initial choice to apply only to regional airlines who had bases near me has worked out for me so far. (I realize that only means that I've been very lucky)
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Originally Posted by dera
wtf are you talking about? I chose my regional 100% based on the base. And I have said it a million times, no regional work rule is worth commuting for if there is a drive to work option available.
I totally got you confused with someone else. My apologies dera!
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Old 09-11-2021, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
Because outside of SkyWest & Endeavor the alternatives in this industry are on life support.

I don’t want to fly a ****ty ragged out CRJ or alternatively, wait 4 years for a 175 upgrade to then make about 10% less than the other industry leaders.

If I get “stuck” here, I’ll be making around $200K as a CKA by the time I retire.

Our CBA is the best in the regional industry, and our pay is near the top.

We get flight benefits on 3 legacy carriers.

New hires aren’t having to wait 6 months to show up.

Our Chief Pilot is a bad ass.

Our CEO isn’t a woke virtue signaler.

Masks aren’t required in the training center.

I like our uniform.

Our Union brings pizza to the training center.

The TownPlace in Indianapolis is nice and the shuttle drivers smile when I tip them.

Any other questions, sweetheart?

I wouldn’t say Envoy or the other AA wholly owns is on life support and the rest of those items seem pretty standard for too tier places


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Old 09-11-2021, 01:25 PM
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I wouldn’t say Envoy or the other AA wholly owns is on life support and the rest of those items seem pretty standard for too tier places
The wholly owned airlines are primarily who I was referencing. The current model isn’t sustainable for American or anyone else. It’ll be changing pretty dramatically in the not too distant future, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
The wholly owned airlines are primarily who I was referencing. The current model isn’t sustainable for American or anyone else. It’ll be changing pretty dramatically in the not too distant future, IMO.
How is Endeavor on life support?
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Old 09-12-2021, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne
The wholly owned airlines are primarily who I was referencing. The current model isn’t sustainable for American or anyone else. It’ll be changing pretty dramatically in the not too distant future, IMO.
uhhh... Correct. SkyWest and Republic aren’t going anywhere. Could shrink possibly, but not going anywhere. Wholly owned regionals (Endeavor, Envoy, Horizon, Piedmont, PSA) are going to benefit from their legacy parent companies throwing money at them to keep new hires coming through the door as contract regionals shrink. It’s why Mesa is getting into cargo on 737s and sending their CRJ900s to Europe. It’s why Air Wisconsin is adding fleet types (create potential for opportunity) while bringing on a cargo variant of the CRJ200. They see what’s coming.
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Old 09-12-2021, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84
How is Endeavor on life support?
Literally my first sentence in this thread:

Because outside of SkyWest & Endeavor the alternatives in this industry are on life support.
American is about to have to do some pruning.
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Old 09-12-2021, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
uhhh... Correct. SkyWest and Republic aren’t going anywhere. Could shrink possibly, but not going anywhere. Wholly owned regionals (Endeavor, Envoy, Horizon, Piedmont, PSA) are going to benefit from their legacy parent companies throwing money at them to keep new hires coming through the door as contract regionals shrink. It’s why Mesa is getting into cargo on 737s and sending their CRJ900s to Europe. It’s why Air Wisconsin is adding fleet types (create potential for opportunity) while bringing on a cargo variant of the CRJ200. They see what’s coming.
I actually think it will be easier to get hired at a Major working for republic than other regionals, think about it like this. When they (AA) hire someone from a WO they have to dish out a massive bonus, makes more sense to hire someone from RPA for free. The big bonus is designed to keep their regionals staffed and pilots waiting for the flow.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:11 AM
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I actually think it will be easier to get hired at a Major working for republic than other regionals, think about it like this. When they (AA) hire someone from a WO they have to dish out a massive bonus, makes more sense to hire someone from RPA for free. The big bonus is designed to keep their regionals staffed and pilots waiting for the flow.
Why? Because they underwing engine time? I think it's going to be easy to get hired at any other carrier during the next 5 years. Pilots over here at Endeavor or leaving in bunches to go to career places. Especially with United hiring our FOs like crazy.
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