YX’s Future as a UAX Carrier
01-02-2020, 07:38 PM
#91
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Every day that goes by, those 100 planes seem more like smoke and mirrors. We have some dinosaurs that could use to be replaced, but have nowhere to grow without scope relief or the collapse/consolidation of other regionals. I personally don't want any more growth especially if it comes from scope relief. No one should want that. That's less jobs at the mainline for the rest of us. This regional model needs to die in the "pilot shortage" era -- or at least regionals become B scale lists of the mainline carriers. We need more density rather than more frequencies. However, that's just another one of my pipe dreams that will never happen.
01-02-2020, 09:57 PM
#92
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Every day that goes by, those 100 planes seem more like smoke and mirrors. We have some dinosaurs that could use to be replaced, but have nowhere to grow without scope relief or the collapse/consolidation of other regionals. I personally don't want any more growth especially if it comes from scope relief. No one should want that. That's less jobs at the mainline for the rest of us. This regional model needs to die in the "pilot shortage" era -- or at least regionals become B scale lists of the mainline carriers. We need more density rather than more frequencies. However, that's just another one of my pipe dreams that will never happen.
Not an official source but I only logical conclusion is that republuc sold those slots or even actual airplanes for some extra flying.
Speaking of slots I think density is a good idea but LGA only has so many slots for flights a day and no major is gonna give that up so the competition gets those spots. Regionals are gonna do the shuttle flights became it blocks everyone else from getting a flight and is cheaper.
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01-03-2020, 06:57 AM
#93
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A new hire at Republic will likely gross 15K more than a Mesa new hire. As a captain that goes up even more.
If you think all of the ancillary costs add up to that much, you're spending way more than you need to.
You're trying to make this about net pay factoring in the costs of commuting, and drastically over inflating that cost to fit your narrative.
Why not just make the premise of your argument that you get more time at home? That's a perfectly valid justification and one people everywhere in aviation understand.
If you think all of the ancillary costs add up to that much, you're spending way more than you need to.
You're trying to make this about net pay factoring in the costs of commuting, and drastically over inflating that cost to fit your narrative.
Why not just make the premise of your argument that you get more time at home? That's a perfectly valid justification and one people everywhere in aviation understand.
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01-03-2020, 07:00 AM
#94
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Every day that goes by, those 100 planes seem more like smoke and mirrors. We have some dinosaurs that could use to be replaced, but have nowhere to grow without scope relief or the collapse/consolidation of other regionals. I personally don't want any more growth especially if it comes from scope relief. No one should want that. That's less jobs at the mainline for the rest of us. This regional model needs to die in the "pilot shortage" era -- or at least regionals become B scale lists of the mainline carriers. We need more density rather than more frequencies. However, that's just another one of my pipe dreams that will never happen.
01-03-2020, 07:15 AM
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It actually wasn't that bad of a business strategy by Republic. There was a chance that United pilots were going to relax on scope a bit and Republic locked up 100 E-175s at basically no cost to be the first Regional to be able to take on that new flying. Now that it looks likely it won't happen (although it still could in some form), it will cost nothing for Republic to give up those order while keeping a few to replace older aircraft. Not sure why pilots, some of whom have a lot of experience in this industry, fail to understand this strategy. Nor did Republic ever make any promises to the pilot group based on this order.
01-03-2020, 03:25 PM
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It actually wasn't that bad of a business strategy by Republic. There was a chance that United pilots were going to relax on scope a bit and Republic locked up 100 E-175s at basically no cost to be the first Regional to be able to take on that new flying. Now that it looks likely it won't happen (although it still could in some form), it will cost nothing for Republic to give up those order while keeping a few to replace older aircraft. Not sure why pilots, some of whom have a lot of experience in this industry, fail to understand this strategy. Nor did Republic ever make any promises to the pilot group based on this order.
I suspect 15-20 will still be taken to replace our oldest airframes, and another small handful possibly taken for spare parts.
Beyond that, if we took our 170s and replaced them 1 for 1 with 70-seat 175s, we could potentially use those 170s for additional AA flying with 65 seats, if AA decided to go that direction.
But we really haven't lost anything by ordering them. Banking on scope relief really wasn't a bad bet, unfortunately, given the majors' history of giving it up. The hiring boom over the last couple of years is in direct response to the increased attrition.
And while I don't think it's likely we will, not having heard anything at this point isn't really that shocking. IF there were something to hear, it probably wouldn't be until shortly before we were to start taking delivery.
01-03-2020, 03:52 PM
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They are upgrading at a frantic pace right now. 40 a month...that's max capacity. They've got to keep pace with people leaving and to staff the "new" planes. Things are always moving though. While we don't have forced upgrades here, by the time you get to 1000 hours, you'll get an upgrade. Might not be where you want it, but if you take first available, you'll get it.
01-03-2020, 04:09 PM
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All planes must eventually descend... I kid I kid
They are upgrading at a frantic pace right now. 40 a month...that's max capacity. They've got to keep pace with people leaving and to staff the "new" planes. Things are always moving though. While we don't have forced upgrades here, by the time you get to 1000 hours, you'll get an upgrade. Might not be where you want it, but if you take first available, you'll get it.
They are upgrading at a frantic pace right now. 40 a month...that's max capacity. They've got to keep pace with people leaving and to staff the "new" planes. Things are always moving though. While we don't have forced upgrades here, by the time you get to 1000 hours, you'll get an upgrade. Might not be where you want it, but if you take first available, you'll get it.
That’s great to hear! Always heard rumors that Republic is somewhat stagnant with pilot movement but great to hear there is some and upgrade time is down!
01-03-2020, 04:15 PM
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Say what you want, what I'm saying is true and I know it hurts. I don't need to help negotiate substandard contracts. Both our unions are already doing that. Your right I would not be good to negotiate I would be demanding to get paid, what a mainline pilot would get. I would like to get paid the most I can if you haven't figured that out, I just realize your regional and mine are all getting played. We all are taking paycuts period what's hard to understand.
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