Not honoring approved Part 141 sim time??

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09-14-2019, 07:03 AM

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ninerdriver

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Originally Posted by theonlyski

Could you point to where it says you have to have a level D? I don't see that.

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Dig up AC 61-136B and look up logging ATD time in Appendix D, section 3. Make you own decision from there, but tread very carefully.

09-14-2019, 07:25 AM

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Dig up AC 61-136B and look up logging ATD time in Appendix D, section 3. Make you own decision from there, but tread very carefully.

I'll have to dig deeper. The notes for that AC say:

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This AC applies only to the evaluation and use of BATDs and AATDs. This notice does not apply to full flight simulators (FFS) and flight training devices (FTD) that are regulated under 14 CFR part 60.

The system we had was certified as a FTD if I recall correctly, so I'll have to find an AC that applies to that.

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09-20-2019, 05:53 PM

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I got the 141 Level 6 FTD time approved. Bring the LOA to back yourself up.

09-22-2019, 08:39 PM

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At our 141 school our FTDs had a letter from the FSDO that stated exactly what lessons could be logged on it and how many hours. Anything outside of this could not be logged.

09-26-2019, 03:09 AM

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Does anyone know if military simulators used in training at UPT qualify toward ATP time?

09-26-2019, 03:55 AM

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Does anyone know if military simulators used in training at UPT qualify toward ATP time?

Was the training conducted under parts 121, 135, 141 or 142? I don't think that the military cares about any of those parts, so I doubt it, but you could ask the examiner/FSDO and see if they're more liberal.

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Originally Posted by 61.159

(6) Not more than 100 hours of the total aeronautical experience requirements of paragraph (a) of this section or §61.160 may be obtained in a full flight simulator or flight training device provided the device represents an airplane and the aeronautical experience was accomplished as part of an approved training course in parts 121, 135, 141, or 142 of this chapter.