Compass rumor again?
#151
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#152
Scope Violations
The MEC continues to closely monitor the Company's continual and growing number of egregious scope violations – now at 22 and counting – as outlined in a recent Chairman's Letter. Violations of our scope language are not a recent phenomenon. In fact, Delta has been out of compliance in some aspects of scope for several years now. I continue to meet with Delta executives to reiterate that the violations must stop. Agreements to ensure equitable growth must be reached to ensure there are opportunities for Delta pilots now and in the future.
At a bare minimum, our PWA requires that Delta must meet with ALPA to attempt to negotiate a production balance before a joint venture is finalized. This did not occur prior to Delta entering into its joint venture with Korean Air. We have had a couple of conceptual discussions on global balance ideas, and we are hopeful these discussions can lead to an agreement in the near future.
While it's disappointing that the Company will not meet until after a violation occurs, we remain committed to finding a solution that will end the continuing scope violations and protect Delta pilot jobs. I hope that the Company is equally committed to solving these violations and providing equitable growth for Delta pilots. To be clear: we will not continue to entertain reduced flying opportunities for Delta pilots or the lack of compliance with Section 1 of the PWA. As a former Delta CEO emphatically stated, "A contract is a contract."
In the very near future, I will be asking for your collective help to let the Company know where you stand on this degradation of flying for Delta pilots. Stay tuned for much more information, including an updated dalscope.org website with new information about Delta's scope violations and comparisons of Delta's widebody fleet versus those of our partner carriers.
The MEC continues to closely monitor the Company's continual and growing number of egregious scope violations – now at 22 and counting – as outlined in a recent Chairman's Letter. Violations of our scope language are not a recent phenomenon. In fact, Delta has been out of compliance in some aspects of scope for several years now. I continue to meet with Delta executives to reiterate that the violations must stop. Agreements to ensure equitable growth must be reached to ensure there are opportunities for Delta pilots now and in the future.
At a bare minimum, our PWA requires that Delta must meet with ALPA to attempt to negotiate a production balance before a joint venture is finalized. This did not occur prior to Delta entering into its joint venture with Korean Air. We have had a couple of conceptual discussions on global balance ideas, and we are hopeful these discussions can lead to an agreement in the near future.
While it's disappointing that the Company will not meet until after a violation occurs, we remain committed to finding a solution that will end the continuing scope violations and protect Delta pilot jobs. I hope that the Company is equally committed to solving these violations and providing equitable growth for Delta pilots. To be clear: we will not continue to entertain reduced flying opportunities for Delta pilots or the lack of compliance with Section 1 of the PWA. As a former Delta CEO emphatically stated, "A contract is a contract."
In the very near future, I will be asking for your collective help to let the Company know where you stand on this degradation of flying for Delta pilots. Stay tuned for much more information, including an updated dalscope.org website with new information about Delta's scope violations and comparisons of Delta's widebody fleet versus those of our partner carriers.
#153
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I can’t even count the times I’ve been told to expect growth and then the opposite happens. In fact, I’m somewhat conditioned to expect the opposite now days. I also believe that the whipsaw is still alive and well. Especially during contract negotiations
#154
YX is large, but it's probably in the most precarious position outside the three TSH airlines. It can't grow unless all three legacies see a benefit, because no legacy will let YX grow just to benefit the other legacies.
#155
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What percentage ownership do each of the big three have?
#156
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It might have the most complicated position of any regional being partially owned by AA, DL, and UAL but precarious is the wrong adjective. YX and OO are the strongest regionals and most likely to survive long term IMO. Excluding the AA WO's.
#158
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Collectively they own about 63% I believe. Individually, AA owns the most around 25%, followed by United with like 20% and Delta I believe is around 18%. I’ll give those numbers a +/- 2% margin of error. I do know for fact though that AA owns the most followed by United and Delta with United and Delta having a small percentage difference between the two.
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As duramax said, YX and OO are in a very good strategic position by feeding multiple carriers and are likely to continue growing, whereas the others will consolidate or terminate. The WO concept doesn’t work in favor of the pilot group or long term stability of the company.
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