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Old 09-19-2018, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
My post wasn’t tied to this thread, I’m sorry if it created that impression. There seems to be a lot of vitriol - and not just at SkyWest - on APC. Maybe it’s the nature of this site, or social media generally, but it’s not been something I’ve come across much in three decades around aviation. I’ve found pilots to be engaging, helpful and decent fellow citizens, so I’m hoping what I’ve been reading here is tilted by a few outliers. Wasn’t aiming at anyone in particular or even on this thread.

Any one of us could end up needing another of us, and we all face the same threats out there. I for one won’t be disinclined to help when it’s my turn because of someone’s jacket, employer or position.
APC is basically a cesspool of disgruntled people gathering to complain about the same things in slightly different forms repetitively.

Occasionally, you might happen upon a helpful bit of information or even a rational individual. These events are increasingly rare, as those helpful posts and rational individuals get drowned out by a sea of keyboard warriors comparing the sizes of their wedding vegetables.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
My post wasn’t tied to this thread, I’m sorry if it created that impression. There seems to be a lot of vitriol - and not just at SkyWest - on APC. Maybe it’s the nature of this site, or social media generally, but it’s not been something I’ve come across much in three decades around aviation. I’ve found pilots to be engaging, helpful and decent fellow citizens, so I’m hoping what I’ve been reading here is tilted by a few outliers. Wasn’t aiming at anyone in particular or even on this thread.

Any one of us could end up needing another of us, and we all face the same threats out there. I for one won’t be disinclined to help when it’s my turn because of someone’s jacket, employer or position.
This is a great post! I completely agree. These super angry types are quite rare in the real world.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by majorpilot
My post wasn’t tied to this thread, I’m sorry if it created that impression. There seems to be a lot of vitriol - and not just at SkyWest - on APC. Maybe it’s the nature of this site, or social media generally, but it’s not been something I’ve come across much in three decades around aviation. I’ve found pilots to be engaging, helpful and decent fellow citizens, so I’m hoping what I’ve been reading here is tilted by a few outliers. Wasn’t aiming at anyone in particular or even on this thread.

Any one of us could end up needing another of us, and we all face the same threats out there. I for one won’t be disinclined to help when it’s my turn because of someone’s jacket, employer or position.
If you’re going back 30 years, and you compare and contrast then and now you’ll realize much has changed. First off, we didn’t have internet. And therefore no forums. These forums, as in life are not going to be just sunshine and rainbows. Sorry. If you want that switch to Facebook where everyone only talks and gloats about the good things. It’s alright to vent frustrations. What happens is people’s defense mechanisms kick in and the conversation goes downhill fast. As you said, we should help each other? I agree, but solidarity seems to have died long ago in this business.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
Nobody is treating anyone with lack of human decency. This is purely about the insane slowdown in LGA since Skywest has been there.
Have some decency. It’s a new base with junior crews. I’m sure you guys have had the same effect in other places.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
Have some decency. It’s a new base with junior crews. I’m sure you guys have had the same effect in other places.
Yeah, junior as in most of the pilots are still doing IOE, or just off it.
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:00 AM
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Look, I get most of you guys have never been there and are new to operating out of there regularly, but LGA is everyone’s junior base. We all have junior CAs and FOs in LGA so I don’t see how that’s an excuse.


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Old 09-20-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Slow
APC is basically a cesspool of disgruntled people gathering to complain about the same things in slightly different forms repetitively.

Occasionally, you might happen upon a helpful bit of information or even a rational individual. These events are increasingly rare, as those helpful posts and rational individuals get drowned out by a sea of keyboard warriors comparing the sizes of their wedding vegetables.
Hahahaha! Wedding vegetables lol. Thanks for the good laugh.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:47 PM
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Okay, I'll bite. I'm SKW based in LGA but pretty senior. I'm former Comair and was based in JFK then so I know the whole NYC operation. Pretty much all my trips are teaching newer FO's the ropes. I even had to teach a check airmen how things worked there the other day. Pretty much its go fast in the air and keep things going on the ground, but also be cautious. This is why I almost always taxi two engines in LGA. I want both of our heads out the window and I want to cross 4/22 to be ready at the end. Of course you never know. when you'll be #2 down there or #30. But if I'm unsure of something, I will slow down and clarify. Safety and my certificate trumps someone getting to the gate a little quicker. Just the other day ground tells us to taxi out and by the way, you're on the Flushing climb instead of the Whitestone! Our SOP highly encourages us to stop and reprogram the box and brief. Luckily we had time to so while holding short another taxiway, so we weren't blocking the alley. But I could easily see ground telling us to remain in the ally before we were ready too. Obviously, I'll use my best SA to try and move out of the way when possible with ground or ramp. I like to see the operation move smoothly as much as any of us.

All I see here are a couple of anecdotal stories about how SKW didn't move quick enough out of the way. The story about the guy crossing the runway and then stopping while causing a go around. Yeah I'll give you that one. That was tool like behavior for being totally oblivious to the operation and lacking SA.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Okay, I'll bite. I'm SKW based in LGA but pretty senior. I'm former Comair and was based in JFK then so I know the whole NYC operation. Pretty much all my trips are teaching newer FO's the ropes. I even had to teach a check airmen how things worked there the other day. Pretty much its go fast in the air and keep things going on the ground, but also be cautious. This is why I almost always taxi two engines in LGA. I want both of our heads out the window and I want to cross 4/22 to be ready at the end. Of course you never know. when you'll be #2 down there or #30. But if I'm unsure of something, I will slow down and clarify. Safety and my certificate trumps someone getting to the gate a little quicker. Just the other day ground tells us to taxi out and by the way, you're on the Flushing climb instead of the Whitestone! Our SOP highly encourages us to stop and reprogram the box and brief. Luckily we had time to so while holding short another taxiway, so we weren't blocking the alley. But I could easily see ground telling us to remain in the ally before we were ready too. Obviously, I'll use my best SA to try and move out of the way when possible with ground or ramp. I like to see the operation move smoothly as much as any of us.

All I see here are a couple of anecdotal stories about how SKW didn't move quick enough out of the way. The story about the guy crossing the runway and then stopping while causing a go around. Yeah I'll give you that one. That was tool like behavior for being totally oblivious to the operation and lacking SA.
Thanks for your reply, it was admirable. Ignore the typical APC bashing, it apparently makes people feel better about themselves to put others down. Typical grade-school rhetoric.
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