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Old 09-18-2018, 09:44 AM
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I don’t disagree. I’d just hate to see our pilot group in the same position in the future.
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Maybe so. But you gotta admit, by doing so those Skywest blowhards in affect painted a pretty big target on themselves
The best part is those “blowhards” you refer to are likely not even in LGA.

Regardless, best of luck to all.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sn00p
The best part is those “blowhards” you refer to are likely not even in LGA.

Regardless, best of luck to all.
I’m not specifying any geographical area. I doubt anyone else is either. I’ve never heard anyone say, that X group of pilots in wherever are anything. Gate agents, well that’s another story. As they say, bad apples spoil the bunch
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
I’m not specifying any geographical area. I doubt anyone else is either. I’ve never heard anyone say, that X group of pilots in wherever are anything. Gate agents, well that’s another story. As they say, bad apples spoil the bunch
I’m guessing they are very inexperienced 20 somethings. Or just really immature.

I’ve come across some tools at every pilot group. But the vast majority among all groups have been good guys/ladies. I guarantee anyone that has been around awhile feels the same.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravity88x
I’m a new hire but I came from a labor union job prior to being an airline pilot. If there are union shops with better contracts there’s no reason why you should be accepting the horrible work rules that Skywest has. Not to mention there are other west coast airlines.

I don’t think it’s jealousy for me. I talk **** on Skywest aiming it towards their management for the sake of our brothers and sisters who would like to be union over there
Being in a real union job prior to the airlines, I hope you've seen enough to know ALPA isn't a real union. They're better than what SKW has, but far from being a true labor union.
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
I don’t think anyone’s jealous of Skywest at all. Not sure what there would be to be jealous about. Once your pilot group unionizes and stops reaping the benefits of what other unionized pilot groups have fought for your group would probably be respected a lot more. You guys deserve more than what your management is giving you.
I’m no longer at SkyWest. And sure maybe there is nothing to be jealous of. All I know though is when I was there, I never heard anyone I flew with talk down about another pilot group, always accepted any one in the jump seat. I’ve very rarely encountered the elitist attitudes you guys talk of. However reading this forum has kinda made you guys out to be the same people you are accusing SkyWest guys of being. I’m with an ALPA carrier now, and I hope SkyWest makes that plunge, but I’m not going to treat anyone like they are inferior to me.
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Being in a real union job prior to the airlines, I hope you've seen enough to know ALPA isn't a real union. They're better than what SKW has, but far from being a true labor union.
I invite you to read the book “flying the line” which is about ALPAs history.

Part of the reason ALPA doesn’t pack as much of a punch as say the Teamsters for UPS drivers or United Steelworkers for construction is because we have always been viewed by both the public and politicians as Professionals comparable to Lawyers or Doctors. Why would we possibly need as much labor power as a real laborer does?? Believe me ALPA, IPA, APA, Southwest, and IBT do just fine for the cards dealt to them. Hate them while things are going well ok fine, but believe me when **** hits the fan they are going to be there for you.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:20 AM
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I invite you to read the book “flying the line” which is about ALPAs history.

Part of the reason ALPA doesn’t pack as much of a punch as say the Teamsters for UPS drivers or United Steelworkers for construction is because we have always been viewed by both the public and politicians as Professionals comparable to Lawyers or Doctors. Why would we possibly need as much labor power as a real laborer does?? Believe me ALPA, IPA, APA, Southwest, and IBT do just fine for the cards dealt to them. Hate them while things are going well ok fine, but believe me when **** hits the fan they are going to be there for you.
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Old 09-19-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
I’m no longer at SkyWest. And sure maybe there is nothing to be jealous of. All I know though is when I was there, I never heard anyone I flew with talk down about another pilot group, always accepted any one in the jump seat. I’ve very rarely encountered the elitist attitudes you guys talk of. However reading this forum has kinda made you guys out to be the same people you are accusing SkyWest guys of being. I’m with an ALPA carrier now, and I hope SkyWest makes that plunge, but I’m not going to treat anyone like they are inferior to me.


I’m new to this industry and SkyWest, so have a limited basis for comparison. But I agree with this post. A little common human decency goes a long way.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:58 AM
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I’m new to this industry and SkyWest, so have a limited basis for comparison. But I agree with this post. A little common human decency goes a long way.
Nobody is treating anyone with lack of human decency. This is purely about the insane slowdown in LGA since Skywest has been there.
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