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Old 10-14-2018, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC

I doubt the captains of these aircraft or the gate agents are aware of this policy, certainly it's not on them to police the new hires.
I'm pretty sure that no such "policy" exists on the line (FOM, SOP, etc.) I couldn't find one in our docs. Sounds more like a "rule" for new hires. If a new hire tried to jumpseat there's no reason I can see a Capt wouldn't allow it. I'm pretty sure the only thing the gate agent cares about is if the person is in CASS.

Originally Posted by Jungle Jim
We were actually told the contrary in our class. They withheld our ID's until we were almost done with systems because some knucklehead decided to jumpseat a turn during indoc and didn't make it back for class due to IROP.
If they told you it's a policy of the training dept for this reason, that's an entirely different matter. Do what they tell you.....
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jungle Jim
We were actually told the contrary in our class. They withheld our ID's until we were almost done with systems because some knucklehead decided to jumpseat a turn during indoc and didn't make it back for class due to IROP. Since that happened, they don't just cut you loose right away. They said they didn't want us in the jumpseat without knowing anything about the systems of the airplane, but encouraged us to jumpseat a couple times during training especially after learning flows and callouts.
Out of curiosity, what class were you in / when did this happen? Because when I interviewed earlier this month, we were told we'd get jumpseat privileges between 2-4 weeks after Day 1, and they even "advertised" how nice that will be considering the ~2 month delay in the pipeline...

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Old 10-16-2018, 04:58 AM
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Yeah, not sure where all this who ha is coming from, but there should be no issue with anybody jumpseating who is not fully qualified. Heck we even had an Air Wisconsin trainee jumpseat with us once. So we are going to let UAX partner trainees jumpseat but not our own???

As long as you have CASS, you are eligible and more then legal to jumpseat. Being qualified to fly is a load of BS as we have people who are not qualified to fly jumpseat all the freaken time (FAA, Dispatch, etc.)
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:25 AM
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October 15th class being sent home until at least Jan 2nd. Apparently they are also making them all have the 50 hours of ME time too by the time they come back (company paying for it and it’s not coming out of the signing bonus.)
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 814Pilot
October 15th class being sent home until at least Jan 2nd. Apparently they are also making them all have the 50 hours of ME time too by the time they come back (company paying for it and it’s not coming out of the signing bonus.)
I was just offered this too. This after I told them I won't attend class because of the ME requirement.
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Old 10-16-2018, 12:52 PM
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I was just offered this too. This after I told them I won't attend class because of the ME requirement.
Wait. Wouldn’t you need 50 by the first day of indoc anyway ?
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Old 10-16-2018, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackmamba
Wait. Wouldn’t you need 50 by the first day of indoc anyway ?
not for RATP applicants
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Old 10-16-2018, 01:34 PM
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Great. After I already used the FTI program.
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackmamba
Great. After I already used the FTI program.
RATP applicants were only required to have 25 hours. With the delay, they don't want us building 25 hours in sims since that will delay your oral and make you stress even more. Once the delay is over, you will be fire hosed through and they don't want you focusing on the oral while going through sims.

So, they are paying for the remaining hours to get you to 50 total multi hours (or to 1,000 total time)
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Old 10-16-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot2804
RATP applicants were only required to have 25 hours. With the delay, they don't want us building 25 hours in sims since that will delay your oral and make you stress even more. Once the delay is over, you will be fire hosed through and they don't want you focusing on the oral while going through sims.

So, they are paying for the remaining hours to get you to 50 total multi hours (or to 1,000 total time)
So since I was a part 61 guy and have the 1500 hour rule I wouldn’t have qualified ?
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