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Old 10-12-2018, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot2804
The director of flight ops just recently approved outside flying for pilots only who are on the training delay.

It was approved for everyone. Not just trainees. It's a case by case basis though.
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:05 PM
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Is that after the checkride?
Normally it was towards the end of Systems class. Not sure when they are handing the, out with the new program. Maybe during the Sits/systems validation.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:38 PM
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Another note about jumpseating, the company really doesn't want you doing it on Republic metal if you aren't typed in the aircraft. I'm not sure if they would find out, but their position is that you should sit in the back until after your checkride, and personally I think it's a good idea to respect that.
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Old 10-13-2018, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC
Another note about jumpseating, the company really doesn't want you doing it on Republic metal if you aren't typed in the aircraft. I'm not sure if they would find out, but their position is that you should sit in the back until after your checkride, and personally I think it's a good idea to respect that.
I observed in the jumpseat on a couple Republic flights in between systems and sims. Of course I asked the captain each time, and made sure they were aware of where I was in training. They were happy to have me up there, and it definitely helped me do better in the sim. Is there a statement from the company stating they don't want the guys in training to be in the jumpseat? Otherwise it's simply captain's discretion.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:25 AM
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Yeah that doesnt make any sense. Jumpseating is a great way to see all the stuff you're reading about (flows callouts profiles) come together.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
I observed in the jumpseat on a couple Republic flights in between systems and sims. Of course I asked the captain each time, and made sure they were aware of where I was in training. They were happy to have me up there, and it definitely helped me do better in the sim. Is there a statement from the company stating they don't want the guys in training to be in the jumpseat? Otherwise it's simply captain's discretion.
I believe per the FOM, we need to be a "qualified crewmember" to occupy the JS. This is what they told us in class. The reality is that if you JS home during sims because you have a 2 day block off, and you can't make it back, you really screw things up for a lot of people. Don't be that person folks!
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Old 10-13-2018, 02:51 PM
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Yeah that doesnt make any sense. Jumpseating is a great way to see all the stuff you're reading about (flows callouts profiles) come together.
I agree, but for my class at least they made the point several times that until we're typed we shouldn't jumpseat. I'm sure a lot of people have done it, but if company tells me to wait I'm going wait.

I doubt the captains of these aircraft or the gate agents are aware of this policy, certainly it's not on them to police the new hires.
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Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC
I agree, but for my class at least they made the point several times that until we're typed we shouldn't jumpseat. I'm sure a lot of people have done it, but if company tells me to wait I'm going wait.

I doubt the captains of these aircraft or the gate agents are aware of this policy, certainly it's not on them to police the new hires.
We were actually told the contrary in our class. They withheld our ID's until we were almost done with systems because some knucklehead decided to jumpseat a turn during indoc and didn't make it back for class due to IROP. Since that happened, they don't just cut you loose right away. They said they didn't want us in the jumpseat without knowing anything about the systems of the airplane, but encouraged us to jumpseat a couple times during training especially after learning flows and callouts.
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Old 10-14-2018, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNotoriousPIC
Another note about jumpseating, the company really doesn't want you doing it on Republic metal if you aren't typed in the aircraft. I'm not sure if they would find out, but their position is that you should sit in the back until after your checkride, and personally I think it's a good idea to respect that.


Yeah that’s a load of crap. Once we got our badge we were told to jumpseat as much as we can without getting in the way of people going to or from work. We could check flight loads by then and fly out from St Louis and back. Other regionals actually require a couple jumpseat ride alongs for their training.
I disagree with you.


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Old 10-14-2018, 03:10 AM
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We were told both. You're supposed to be a fully qualified crew member. But also, jump but don't bump anyone.
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