Snowbound

Not true. Opening up the box of UNLIMITED NEW HIRE BONUSES is not deploying "more negotiating capital toward retention." It is deploying UNLIMITED AMOUNTS to new hires and locking in a possible forever rate for everyone else.

If the company's dreams come true (because you are allowing them an avenue to achieve it) they will in fact NOT have to return to the table ever again.

Who on Earth is this a win-win for?

ORD170

You beat me too it! I don’t know if the NC is just very naive and ignorant or they’ve been bought by the company.

hopeless in SEA

Here's some logic for you.

As long as hiring cannot keep up with attrition, the regional airlines will be dying on the vine. Withering and dying, one by one, and consolidation will only postpone the inevitable.

The primary goal of RAH, and all other regional management teams, is to flatten the pay and benefits.

Convince senior pilots to accept minor increases.

Convince junior pilots to focus on "movement," while they try to trap you. The very essence of maintaining and growing an airline.

Convince new pilot candidates to accept an FO position, through subsidized training and the power to offer unlimited bonus pay.

None of these things will truly benefit YOU, the guys and gals who are actually voting. Simply demand what you're worth, and watch the mainline carriers dump more and more money into this failed venture. Their only alternative is to pay twice as much for their own seniority list to pick up the flying.

Snowbound

Hard choices. I say all three.

hopeless in SEA

One of those is certainly true.

Pat Gannon had no trouble going from union chairman to company VP. And two years ago, our old Negotiating Committee retired itself, because of bad behavior by the E-board. With many of the same characters.

Yes, one of those is certainly true. And perhaps it's a combination.

MileHi

If it's the company's dream to offer unlimited bonuses to ultimately never have to negotiate with the pilots on property ever again, then why aren't they doing that now? They didn't have to come to the table and offer the captains anything, let alone the highest rates in the industry. Also, there's currently no bonus limit. It's always interesting to see guys twist themselves into pretzels with conspiracy theories and fear mongering to answer these questions. I'll wait.

Snowbound

Well I won't keep you waiting.

First, they did in fact ask for UNLIMITED BONUSES unless of course it was your bright idea to give it to them.

Second, they have to throw the captains a bone to get it to pass....be it a small bone.

Third, these aren't the highest rates in the industry overall. Maybe to a chosen few and most of that doesn't come around for three years. By then who knows where we will be.

Finally, there IS currently a bonus limit, but it runs hand-in-hand with what others in our peer group are offering.

Snowbound

By the way I already explained to you that actually USING YOUR BRAIN is not the same thing as paranoia, or as you say in this case, "twisting into a pretzel with conspiracy theories and fear mongering."

Maybe you need to turn your screen up or something.

hopeless in SEA

I have a conspiracy theory.

MileHi uses flawed logic. MileHi loves fear mongering. And MileHi would vote YES to anything, especially if he was being paid to do it.

He would also join a Negotiating Committee, but only if he could defend the company's talking points.

Reference the last TA that passed. He voted YES to a 74% gain to new-hires and a 10% gain to the people who lived through regional hell.

This new LOA represents a chance to extend that. Another 20% to the top, and UNLIMITED control over UNLIMITED gains at the bottom.

And we're all the illogical ones! LOL

MileHi

Fact check:
The captain rates offered are the highest for some now and for everyone else in 23 months.... Hardly (3 years).
Next, there is currently NO bonus limit and the bonuses they do offer are substantially below industry average, let alone anywhere near the top. Why? Because it makes zero sense to over pay to recruit.
I know you don't want to accept these facts because it's counter to your fear mongering narrative, but oh well.