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Old 01-22-2018, 08:44 AM
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As * keeps reminding us, this is not a TA. It's an LOA.

By his own admission, this is what MileHi voted to give all of you two years ago (copied and pasted):

NEW HIRES a 74% gain for doing nothing,

topped-out FO's a 37% gain for a few years of service,

1st year Captains a 24% gain for about 8 years of service, depending on upgrade time,

10 year Captains a 17% gain for their obvious 10 years,

and 18-20 year Captains around 10%.

Only the last two categories were even here for that 12-year, single-contract period. Only the last two categories watched their purchasing power decrease, and their cost-of-living increase. By huge margins.

And this is what his spectacular LOA expands upon. And he claims that Republic took the high road. You are a comedian on your days off!

Is this what representation means to the 2,080 individuals on the seniority list?

Because management intends to give you as little as POSSIBLE, while giving new-hires whatever is NECESSARY. There's a big difference between the two.

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Old 01-22-2018, 08:50 AM
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Remember now, the union agreed that further control over those unlimited new-hire bonuses and tuition reimbursements was the BIG ask by the company.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hopeless in SEA
As * keeps reminding us, this is not a TA. It's an LOA.

By his own admission, this is what MileHi voted to give all of you two years ago (copied and pasted):

NEW HIRES a 74% gain for doing nothing,

topped-out FO's a 37% gain for a few years of service,

1st year Captains a 24% gain for about 8 years of service, depending on upgrade time,

10 year Captains a 17% gain for their obvious 10 years,

and 18-20 year Captains around 10%.

Only the last two categories were even here for that 12-year, single-contract period. Only the last two categories watched their purchasing power decrease, and their cost-of-living increase. By huge margins.

And this is what his spectacular LOA expands upon. And he claims that Republic took the high road. You are a comedian on your days off!

Is this what representation means to the 2,080 individuals on the seniority list?

Because management intends to give you as little as POSSIBLE, while giving new-hires whatever is NECESSARY. There's a big difference between the two.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ihatepilots
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And full of bad info at that! The average captain raise is 20% not including Longevity increases and the average FO raise is 18%. Average captains will see a $20-$25/hr raise over the next 23 months. But facts, meh.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerizbro
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Did this TA include commuter hotels?

No. Really compensation only.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:16 AM
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A reliable source told my neighbors dog that a no vote will get yammer back.

But seriously if this gets voted down what happens to the current NC?
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ORD170
A reliable source told my neighbors dog that a no vote will get yammer back.

But seriously if this gets voted down what happens to the current NC?
This is a vote on an LOA. I'd assume they go back to flying the line and wait for the company to reach out again.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MileHi
This is a vote on an LOA. I'd assume they go back to flying the line and wait for the company to reach out again.
I suppose, since they’re appointed by the E-board. I’m sure if it was a overwhelming no vote, they would be gone though. Probably 60/40 yes, but the honeymoon will be over for many FOs.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:30 AM
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Point to consider: Considering how senior some of these bases are with CAs, is it really a bad thing to vote down this LOA to get them to move the heck on? It will make life a lot easier for FOs ready to upgrade to Captain.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by keepinitreal
Point to consider: Considering how senior some of these bases are with CAs, is it really a bad thing to vote down this LOA to get them to move the heck on? It will make life a lot easier for FOs ready to upgrade to Captain.
I don’t think this LOA will stop a 10 year captain from leaving, but the 15-20 will probably stay put. I would be concerned about the upgrade if I were a junior FO.
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