hopeless in SEA

Oh, brother.

Anyone who would argue that "republics CBA/LOA exceeds 9E, especially by 1/1/2020" might also want to answer this question . . . what happens after 2020?

Does the company have to come back to the table, assuming that they have even more control over candidate and new-hire pay or reimbursements?

And the answer to that is NO.

It could "easily be argued" that this is excellent short-term thinking. Especially given the fact that others are already prepping for contract talks that are two years out.

Oh, but let me guess. This is our only guaranteed chance to get something at all! Doom and gloom, the sky is falling, management doesn't need us! There's some mythical group of qualified pilots just waiting in the ether to absorb our 10 million passengers this year if we don't make ourselves competitive by earning less now!

Come on! No one capable of rational thought could make this stuff up.

hopeless in SEA

This guy gets it. And our union reps sadly do not.

Goose Lives

I can say there is hope, my class just passed a year of seniority not long ago and the major consensus was "NO" from everyone that spoke up (a vast majority).

MileHi

It's pretty simple really. When you upgrade in a couple years (or less) do you want $78/hr or $97/hr? It also comes with a little extra in 401K and paid time off. Your call.

Snowbound

The key word is, LITTLE.

So you can "settle" for this or keep voting "NO" until they offer you what you are actually worth. Don't worry they will!

Again, there are not too many people waiting in the wings to replace you. If there were, they wouldn't be trying to offer unlimited new-hire bonuses.

sflpilot

Yeah, word got out. Nobody wants to be an airline pilot anymore. Funny that. Guess some republic pilots didn't get the memo.

hopeless in SEA

Is it really that simple? Or does it just seem simple to simple people?

If you just make more money but you give away control of the things which truly make-or-break a contract, like scope, definitions, and incentives, did you really gain anything?

What a goon.

MileHi

I couldn't agree more. Good thing scope and definitions weren't touched in the LOA.

Snowbound

I think the key word was, "Like."

All the examples listed were taken away by short-sighted people who voted yes in the last cba. Like-wise, with this garbage being voted on now, something just as big as scope will be voted down the drain. A whole new world for the short-sighted called, UNLIMITED NEW-HIRE BONUSES.

Just imagine it yes voters..... Never getting another raise again while the new-hire you are baby-sitting made more in bonuses than you will make for an entire year......OR MORE!!!!

Vote, vote often....vote no!

MileHi

So, the logic you're using is the company will offer unlimited new hire bonuses? They aren't doing that now. They currently offer $17,500 max. They could offer a million dollars right now, but that doesn't make smart business now nor in the future. Why overpay or get into a bidding war for new hires when they don't have to? This is the same company who we agree doesn't ever pay a dime extra to anyone they don't have to. Your reasoning is counterintuitive. Also, regarding future bargaining leverage. Don't you think that if the company acts in bad faith and stops
negotiating people will start bailing in droves? Once again, INCREASING attrition would be antithetical to their staffing challenges. Your logic just doesn't make sense and neither do your failed attempts to rationalize emotional decision making.