2018 Tentative Agreement
#101
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Endeavor pilots can be junior assigned up to 2 times per month and 8 times per year. They also regularly perform airport ready reserve. Endeavor Co basing makes it challenging for commuters requiring a crash pad. Also, min days off for EDV lineholders is 11. EDV has no trip and duty rigs. Throw in a lower per diem with a lower min day pay credit. This is in addition to 30% lower Healthcare premiums at republic with higher company HSA contributions. These are several areas that not only affect the pilot's pocketbook but also their QOL. I would hope in this day and age, pilots realize that other factors weigh on a pilot's W-2 and QOL and not just pay rates. If you don't believe me, how bout this. Suggest to Republic pilots that they should give up all gains in all the areas their contact is superior to EDV including the soft pay they fought so hard for. In exchange, they get Endeavor rates immediately. Keep in mind though, that their offer currently on the table already does that for captains at year 16+ and for all the other captains in less than 2 years. I understand the temptation, but most pilots are smart enough these days to look beyond just the page with pay rates.
In exchange we got positive space to work. Better reserve rules, long call, higher min day pay for reserves. And a bunc,h more.
One thing you did get right, we do have Ready reserve, and it sucks. Nail on the head with that.
And you're also right that we don't have trip or duty rigs. But tbh, we don't need them. Our trips are built pretty well and we have lots of diversity. Btw, not so secret secret.... Our 5 day trips are trip rigged to 5 hours of credit. That makes a 5 day worth 25 min.
And yea, his averages are insanely off. Average awarded is much higher. It doesn't take much mathematics to see that it would be impossible to have a 76 hour awarded line average with a 75 hour guarantee. You would need 1000 people getting awarded min to offset 100 guys getting high credit lines.
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#103
Don't make the mistake of signing in a CBA of expansion times, get the language of recession times now. Just because Endeavor doesn't use JM, doesn't mean they won't use it when the time comes. Get it in writing.
Just because rah doesn't use ready reserve, doesn't mean it won't come to you. Get it in writing.
People of 2003 rah CBA or PSA people with the concessionary CBA agreed on 4 year pay rates because everyone was upgrading less than that. We know how well that worked for fos locked on Club 36.62.
I like some of the improvements on this TA , it is not at a level to attract and retain pilots.
If people with 17 year seniority are filling up right seat, that means there is something wrong with the hiring at RAH.
Just because rah doesn't use ready reserve, doesn't mean it won't come to you. Get it in writing.
People of 2003 rah CBA or PSA people with the concessionary CBA agreed on 4 year pay rates because everyone was upgrading less than that. We know how well that worked for fos locked on Club 36.62.
I like some of the improvements on this TA , it is not at a level to attract and retain pilots.
If people with 17 year seniority are filling up right seat, that means there is something wrong with the hiring at RAH.
#104
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Could it be because a company parrot who was pushing for LBFO last time around was appointed into the NC ? Could it be because another pilot who lived at the HQ by doing interviews while we were in contract negotations is in the NC ?
You put management friendly people in the NC , you get management friendly TA.
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Yup. That could be it!!
Could it be because a company parrot who was pushing for LBFO last time around was appointed into the NC ? Could it be because another pilot who lived at the HQ by doing interviews while we were in contract negotations is in the NC ?
You put management friendly people in the NC , you get management friendly TA.
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#105
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We could say the same about MileHi when it comes to his discussion of our operation. We’re just defending ourselves and clearing the intentionally muddied waters. It’s obvious the drawbacks of our contract are being used as a punching bag to sell this TA, much like the “it’s just a temporary bonus, they can take it away at any time” argument was used by OO management to sell their TA.
#106
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#107
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We could say the same about MileHi when it comes to his discussion of our operation. We’re just defending ourselves and clearing the intentionally muddied waters. It’s obvious the drawbacks of our contract are being used as a punching bag to sell this TA, much like the “it’s just a temporary bonus, they can take it away at any time” argument was used by OO management to sell their TA.
#108
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Maybe. Please don’t make any decisions about this TA from info you receive on this forum. Talk to other pilots on the line, and look at the TA itself. Unlimited new hire bonuses are the biggest danger to your career at Republic. Nothing to prevent Republic from giving scholarships out to HS students, and having them sign a 10 year contract. Don’t let fear make the decision for you.
#109
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I never thought I’d join a forum but this is pure comedy how this is a urinating (censorship) match between endeavor and rah forum nerds... I’m sure 99% of the people here can be spotted at overnight bars/restaurants because all they talk about is work... just vote how you’re gonna vote and shut up about it... stop trying to convince people to vote the same as you or act like you’re prophets that know what’s gonna happen to the industry because of a stupid TA
#110
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I never thought I’d join a forum but this is pure comedy how this is a urinating (censorship) match between endeavor and rah forum nerds... I’m sure 99% of the people here can be spotted at overnight bars/restaurants because all they talk about is work... just vote how you’re gonna vote and shut up about it... stop trying to convince people to vote the same as you or act like you’re prophets that know what’s gonna happen to the industry because of a stupid TA
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