Why would you come to Republic?
12-05-2017, 07:25 PM
#72
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Here's the reality - for those of us that have moved on from RAH, we really cannot fathom how anyone can justify not trying to get out of that company. Any of us that have moved on and seen how the other side lives cannot believe what we were forced to endure at that company. La Quintas in some of the shadiest areas of town, schedulers who went out of their way to make life miserable, CPs who deliberately tried to destroy careers, sim instructors who used the sim for their own personal vendettas, pilots who used the 170 as their own personal Ferrari and are still employed, horrible trips that start early, end late, and on and on and on.
I've talked with my friends who have moved on from RAH and we all basically conclude that "my worst day at (insert legacy) is better than my best day at RAH." If you truly believe that you have it good at RAH, you don't know what good is. And you can justify it all you want with "I can't take the paycut" or "I have a good QOL". You have no idea what a good QOL is, and if you can't cut your pay a few bucks an hour, you've horribly mismanaged your finances. Stop pretending that you somehow have it better than you do.
I've talked with my friends who have moved on from RAH and we all basically conclude that "my worst day at (insert legacy) is better than my best day at RAH." If you truly believe that you have it good at RAH, you don't know what good is. And you can justify it all you want with "I can't take the paycut" or "I have a good QOL". You have no idea what a good QOL is, and if you can't cut your pay a few bucks an hour, you've horribly mismanaged your finances. Stop pretending that you somehow have it better than you do.
12-06-2017, 09:33 AM
#73
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Not sure he said that, but that sounds like him. Most of the “new guys”, hired since culture change, just don’t get it. The same dear leader is in charge. The only reason you are treated well now, is because they need pilots. Yes in good times Republic will treat you great, but when the economy tanks or a national emergency happens you will see their true colors. How many pilot furloughs since 9/11? 4 Did they stall for a new pilo contract? Did they ever furlough out of seniority? YES Did they displace pilots from Hawaii with little notice or time to move? YES Did they placard a seat on a 100 seat airplane to prevent paying a fair wage to pilots? YES
12-06-2017, 09:49 AM
#75
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Fantastic Christmas bonus. Maybe they have changed their ways. Oh and you still get the $175 after tax Christmas bonus to pay for the data plan. But seriously I bet we have a contract before summer. I’m hearing $20 a hour raise for everyone, and a flow to VIA Airlines.
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12-06-2017, 10:19 AM
#76
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LOL 
He might still be here, maybe he's really gone? but in any case he's obviously trolling the FB page and definitely one of those guys who moves on ha ha ha. On a mission to stop the hiring at Republic and a mission to screw with growth, upgrade and careers of people he used to apparently (or still does) called colleagues. One of those that take a sh!t in his own backyard. what a small minded person.
He might still be here, maybe he's really gone? but in any case he's obviously trolling the FB page and definitely one of those guys who moves on ha ha ha. On a mission to stop the hiring at Republic and a mission to screw with growth, upgrade and careers of people he used to apparently (or still does) called colleagues. One of those that take a sh!t in his own backyard. what a small minded person.You put way to much faith in APC, or even the union. When Republic has maxed out the signing bonus (not even close now), and H-1B visas, then maybe worry. If it gets that bad, then they will cut a deal with the teamsters to push through a below industry contract, and when that fails they will threaten bankruptcy and probably stop upgrades. Then they will draft a contract and inform the pilot group they must approve it, or the company will go bankrupt. Now if the pilots vote this down I would worry, because they will most likely declare bankruptcy, which would be bad.
But seriously doesn’t every other regional have a shorter upgrade now? Endeavor has much better pay and they just upgraded a guy in new hire training. Unless you live in a outstation or republic is your career destination, then what do you really have to lose?
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12-06-2017, 02:08 PM
#77
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You put way to much faith in APC, or even the union. When Republic has maxed out the signing bonus (not even close now), and H-1B visas, then maybe worry. If it gets that bad, then they will cut a deal with the teamsters to push through a below industry contract, and when that fails they will threaten bankruptcy and probably stop upgrades. Then they will draft a contract and inform the pilot group they must approve it, or the company will go bankrupt. Now if the pilots vote this down I would worry, because they will most likely declare bankruptcy, which would be bad.
But seriously doesn’t every other regional have a shorter upgrade now? Endeavor has much better pay and they just upgraded a guy in new hire training. Unless you live in a outstation or republic is your career destination, then what do you really have to lose?
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But seriously doesn’t every other regional have a shorter upgrade now? Endeavor has much better pay and they just upgraded a guy in new hire training. Unless you live in a outstation or republic is your career destination, then what do you really have to lose?
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Whether you drive to an outstation or a hub, who cares, you drive to work. Doesn't matter what it is.
Upgrading at Envoy for $65/hour? No thanks, I like my QOL too much and as long as I can enjoy driving to work my 17 days off per month and 90hr/credit average (good luck getting that at Envoy), enjoying proper domestic flying with a good amount of international instead of the real regional 4-legs day, 1.5 hours max legs, I will be enjoying my QOL.
The only other regional I would go for - for QOL reason - would be Endeavor because the the potentially rapid upgrade (for Part 121 pilots with 1,000+) hours and the CA pay rate (the company doesn't want to guarantee you that you will upgrade within 3-5 month, they tell you "we cannot guarantee but it happens"). I wouldn't go change my QOL and have to commute to a ****ty base (a crash pad with 15 other guys in MSP, DTW, NY, no thanks) for only $5 extra per hour.
As a new hire - QOL doesn't mean too much to someone under the age of 30 nowadays - I would definitely choose 9E over RAH because of the extra $ for similar QOL. RAH still doesn't use ready reserve and doesn't have Junior manning - Did you see the healthcare plans?
As far as RAH going for another BR and kill the company, pass a below standard contract, lol. Yes, I love the armageddon scenarios, but for what? what's their point doing that and committing suicide? Why would they bother the hassle when they could have killed it already and be gone with multi-million severance package. Why even bother going a bit longer.
Let's not forget that we are partially owned (62%) by 3 airlines that seriously need our flying and who do not want to be held by the balls by their WO and need Skywest, Compass, Mesa, RAH and others to keep control of their WO pilot groups.
You, know you might be very correct on all of this and we might go down the gutters of commercial aviation, becoming a (still flying and still hiring and still paying pilots, Mesa) but you sound like all the same APC guys who were shouting "theanti-christ is coming, run, run, run, it's over" when we went into BR. So many were so sure this was going to be Pinnacle 2.0 with 7 years of reserve, 10 years of upgrade. Funny how it did actually went as company had predicted.
This company knows very well that it has to match 9E's pay and improve things in the CBA if they want to be able to deliver flying for their partial-owners/clients in the Summer. They don't have too many months left to react and control their future. Let's see what they do.
12-06-2017, 02:57 PM
#78
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H1B visas, at RAH? Have we started?
Whether you drive to an outstation or a hub, who cares, you drive to work. Doesn't matter what it is.
Upgrading at Envoy for $65/hour? No thanks, I like my QOL too much and as long as I can enjoy driving to work my 17 days off per month and 90hr/credit average (good luck getting that at Envoy), enjoying proper domestic flying with a good amount of international instead of the real regional 4-legs day, 1.5 hours max legs, I will be enjoying my QOL.
The only other regional I would go for - for QOL reason - would be Endeavor because the the potentially rapid upgrade (for Part 121 pilots with 1,000+) hours and the CA pay rate (the company doesn't want to guarantee you that you will upgrade within 3-5 month, they tell you "we cannot guarantee but it happens"). I wouldn't go change my QOL and have to commute to a ****ty base (a crash pad with 15 other guys in MSP, DTW, NY, no thanks) for only $5 extra per hour.
As a new hire - QOL doesn't mean too much to someone under the age of 30 nowadays - I would definitely choose 9E over RAH because of the extra $ for similar QOL. RAH still doesn't use ready reserve and doesn't have Junior manning - Did you see the healthcare plans?
As far as RAH going for another BR and kill the company, pass a below standard contract, lol. Yes, I love the armageddon scenarios, but for what? what's their point doing that and committing suicide? Why would they bother the hassle when they could have killed it already and be gone with multi-million severance package. Why even bother going a bit longer.
Let's not forget that we are partially owned (62%) by 3 airlines that seriously need our flying and who do not want to be held by the balls by their WO and need Skywest, Compass, Mesa, RAH and others to keep control of their WO pilot groups.
You, know you might be very correct on all of this and we might go down the gutters of commercial aviation, becoming a (still flying and still hiring and still paying pilots, Mesa) but you sound like all the same APC guys who were shouting "theanti-christ is coming, run, run, run, it's over" when we went into BR. So many were so sure this was going to be Pinnacle 2.0 with 7 years of reserve, 10 years of upgrade. Funny how it did actually went as company had predicted.
This company knows very well that it has to match 9E's pay and improve things in the CBA if they want to be able to deliver flying for their partial-owners/clients in the Summer. They don't have too many months left to react and control their future. Let's see what they do.
Whether you drive to an outstation or a hub, who cares, you drive to work. Doesn't matter what it is.
Upgrading at Envoy for $65/hour? No thanks, I like my QOL too much and as long as I can enjoy driving to work my 17 days off per month and 90hr/credit average (good luck getting that at Envoy), enjoying proper domestic flying with a good amount of international instead of the real regional 4-legs day, 1.5 hours max legs, I will be enjoying my QOL.
The only other regional I would go for - for QOL reason - would be Endeavor because the the potentially rapid upgrade (for Part 121 pilots with 1,000+) hours and the CA pay rate (the company doesn't want to guarantee you that you will upgrade within 3-5 month, they tell you "we cannot guarantee but it happens"). I wouldn't go change my QOL and have to commute to a ****ty base (a crash pad with 15 other guys in MSP, DTW, NY, no thanks) for only $5 extra per hour.
As a new hire - QOL doesn't mean too much to someone under the age of 30 nowadays - I would definitely choose 9E over RAH because of the extra $ for similar QOL. RAH still doesn't use ready reserve and doesn't have Junior manning - Did you see the healthcare plans?
As far as RAH going for another BR and kill the company, pass a below standard contract, lol. Yes, I love the armageddon scenarios, but for what? what's their point doing that and committing suicide? Why would they bother the hassle when they could have killed it already and be gone with multi-million severance package. Why even bother going a bit longer.
Let's not forget that we are partially owned (62%) by 3 airlines that seriously need our flying and who do not want to be held by the balls by their WO and need Skywest, Compass, Mesa, RAH and others to keep control of their WO pilot groups.
You, know you might be very correct on all of this and we might go down the gutters of commercial aviation, becoming a (still flying and still hiring and still paying pilots, Mesa) but you sound like all the same APC guys who were shouting "theanti-christ is coming, run, run, run, it's over" when we went into BR. So many were so sure this was going to be Pinnacle 2.0 with 7 years of reserve, 10 years of upgrade. Funny how it did actually went as company had predicted.
This company knows very well that it has to match 9E's pay and improve things in the CBA if they want to be able to deliver flying for their partial-owners/clients in the Summer. They don't have too many months left to react and control their future. Let's see what they do.
12-07-2017, 04:31 AM
#79
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Piloto
Posts: 324
Did you hear anything about H1B too though, or just the same things that's been going around with the FAA Re-Authorization Bill?
12-07-2017, 11:32 AM
#80
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 6
Look at your post
[QUOTE=busdriver123456;2477729]No one said active duty. You simply implied that. I said military pilots.[/QUOTE
I implied that your post was not accurate. Now I am saying it clearly - your post is not accurate. You stated “active military fixed wing pilots”. That’s why I pasted the quote from your post on Dec 3rd.
Since I know for a fact that part of your post is not true, I am trying to give the facts about that to anyone new readers.
I implied that your post was not accurate. Now I am saying it clearly - your post is not accurate. You stated “active military fixed wing pilots”. That’s why I pasted the quote from your post on Dec 3rd.
Since I know for a fact that part of your post is not true, I am trying to give the facts about that to anyone new readers.
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