Why would you come to Republic?
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You apply and get hired. You should try it out. Also ask whoever is doing attrition data there how many have gone on to mainline? Because it's less than you think... Also how many FO's have gone? Not that many! You have a better chance being in the left seat. Very few FO's go to mainline. Even fewer ones that are white male civilians.
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When you take into account the entire package it makes Republic the worst. That's why. Is it hard for you to understand that? The contract signed in 2015 brought Republic up to an adequate level. Since then everyone has passed Republic. They have the worst PTO, 401K, Reserve system, and oh yeah how's SAP workin out? Everyone has better than they do. Is the kool-aid that good?
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So when I saw this thread title I just immediately assumed that the question would be directly related to the new Endeavour contract. If that were to be the case, then I can see a way to have a conversation not just about Republic but every regional and their battle amongst themselves to get new hires. This would generally be good for all, rising tide lifting all ships and what not, without taking into account the possible gutting of the ATP requirements.
But instead it's just a back and forth rant filled post. Don't get me wrong, I've been anti-RAP for a while and get all the same insults about how I must be some interview reject or new hire failure (neither true). Mostly because I also get into the weeds too much and take it personal, but my dislike is toward the entire regional industry and it's B scale scope. So as someone who has tried to learn from past experience, why not just talk about how ALLLLLLLLL the regionals will now have to have in place a plan for flow or pay that makes them attractive to the shrinking pool of pilots we currently have?
Anyone who has worked in this business knows that matching pay will take significant time due to the company/union relationship...tho I might be looking at SkyWest first to see if they are quick to match since they are nonunion. But Envoy and the other WOs and Republic might not see any improvements for years. Remember it was about 8 yrs for RAH to get their last contract since amenable I think. And this current one is 2 years old yes? Might be waiting some time for improvements.
My worthless advice to anyone reading this working on their ATP requirements: Look at the Pay, Upgrade Time, Flow, and Bases. Then make your decision based on what you think is best......and I will make one promise you can absolutely take to the bank. And that is no matter what you choose, something will change and you'll wonder why you didn't choose choice B or C over choice A. It is inevitable, and you will do it your whole career. The only real consolation is that you will likely have an opportunity to make it the majors if you so choose. Unlike many of Regional Captains with 15K+ PIC due to the 'Lost Decade" and can't get hired anywhere.
But instead it's just a back and forth rant filled post. Don't get me wrong, I've been anti-RAP for a while and get all the same insults about how I must be some interview reject or new hire failure (neither true). Mostly because I also get into the weeds too much and take it personal, but my dislike is toward the entire regional industry and it's B scale scope. So as someone who has tried to learn from past experience, why not just talk about how ALLLLLLLLL the regionals will now have to have in place a plan for flow or pay that makes them attractive to the shrinking pool of pilots we currently have?
Anyone who has worked in this business knows that matching pay will take significant time due to the company/union relationship...tho I might be looking at SkyWest first to see if they are quick to match since they are nonunion. But Envoy and the other WOs and Republic might not see any improvements for years. Remember it was about 8 yrs for RAH to get their last contract since amenable I think. And this current one is 2 years old yes? Might be waiting some time for improvements.
My worthless advice to anyone reading this working on their ATP requirements: Look at the Pay, Upgrade Time, Flow, and Bases. Then make your decision based on what you think is best......and I will make one promise you can absolutely take to the bank. And that is no matter what you choose, something will change and you'll wonder why you didn't choose choice B or C over choice A. It is inevitable, and you will do it your whole career. The only real consolation is that you will likely have an opportunity to make it the majors if you so choose. Unlike many of Regional Captains with 15K+ PIC due to the 'Lost Decade" and can't get hired anywhere.
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Past performance is no guarantee of future returns...
5 years ago ExpressJet had Industry Leading Wages and the best contract for soft pay... Not the place to be today... Comair was closing down...
Republic post bankruptcy is not the same airline of the “3662 Club”.
If Republic has a base were you live, worth considering.
Poor 401K match, but immediate vesting.
No Junior Manning.
3 year 4 month upgrade and dropping.
No crystal balls in the Regional Industry....
Your mileage may vary....
5 years ago ExpressJet had Industry Leading Wages and the best contract for soft pay... Not the place to be today... Comair was closing down...
Republic post bankruptcy is not the same airline of the “3662 Club”.
If Republic has a base were you live, worth considering.
Poor 401K match, but immediate vesting.
No Junior Manning.
3 year 4 month upgrade and dropping.
No crystal balls in the Regional Industry....
Your mileage may vary....
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Past performance is no guarantee of future returns...
5 years ago ExpressJet had Industry Leading Wages and the best contract for soft pay... Not the place to be today... Comair was closing down...
Republic post bankruptcy is not the same airline of the “3662 Club”.
If Republic has a base were you live, worth considering.
Poor 401K match, but immediate vesting.
No Junior Manning.
3 year 4 month upgrade and dropping.
No crystal balls in the Regional Industry....
Your mileage may vary....
5 years ago ExpressJet had Industry Leading Wages and the best contract for soft pay... Not the place to be today... Comair was closing down...
Republic post bankruptcy is not the same airline of the “3662 Club”.
If Republic has a base were you live, worth considering.
Poor 401K match, but immediate vesting.
No Junior Manning.
3 year 4 month upgrade and dropping.
No crystal balls in the Regional Industry....
Your mileage may vary....
If you can live in base at Republic its a good job. Reserve in base makes it easy to make extra cash.
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I'll give you that. Thats the first made point of why you should come. So if you live in PIT, CMH or IND than you should come other than that. I can't find one.
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I think he was listing outstations. I think if I wanted to live in NYC area I would look at endeavor or maybe even Commutair. More money as FO and shorter upgrade. If you want to live in CMH, IND, MCI, or PIT, then Republic is probably your best bet.
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