Getting ready for Airline Training/Interviews
01-23-2017, 09:23 AM
#11
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
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Correct, all those questions are based on whatever particular approach plate they have picked out, which would naturally depict the missed hold point, etc. They're not trying to trick you with stupid stuff. Any pilot who sees a hold and the inbound course drawn into it should easily determine what the entry would be.
01-23-2017, 09:33 AM
#12
Where's my Mai Tai?
Joined APC: Aug 2006
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The horror that 250 hour wonders can't get hired right away anymore.
01-23-2017, 10:53 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
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The fact is (like any other profession), pilot applicants are expected to have a minimum level of knowledge and proficiency. According to the article - they don't.
Any excuse deflects from the fact that new pilots are not meeting standards.
I'm in favor of raising standards in order to separate the weekend warriors from professional pilots. For those who can't muster the excellence required, have fun paying off training loans while working some minimum wage job.
01-23-2017, 11:18 AM
#16
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Over the last 2 years, out of all the new pilots I have flown with, only 2 were survey pilots. One did fly banners, but he also instructed. Of all my pilot friends on facebook who are building time, only 2 aren't CFIs.
A regional I worked at would post pie charts about the background of new hires. Most were CFIs. I am sure someone who still works at a regional would be able to post their stats.
A regional I worked at would post pie charts about the background of new hires. Most were CFIs. I am sure someone who still works at a regional would be able to post their stats.
01-23-2017, 03:23 PM
#17
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Over the last 2 years, out of all the new pilots I have flown with, only 2 were survey pilots. One did fly banners, but he also instructed. Of all my pilot friends on facebook who are building time, only 2 aren't CFIs.
A regional I worked at would post pie charts about the background of new hires. Most were CFIs. I am sure someone who still works at a regional would be able to post their stats.
A regional I worked at would post pie charts about the background of new hires. Most were CFIs. I am sure someone who still works at a regional would be able to post their stats.
01-23-2017, 03:26 PM
#18
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The answer is of course because if it isn't fresh, and it doesn't get used, then humans tend to forget it over time. Book knowledge and experience are two different things. Lawyers are the most knowledgeable just out of law school, but an older attorney has much more experience.
01-23-2017, 04:00 PM
#19
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Most doctors don't diagnose uncommon diseases, they send patients off to a specialist. And many times there is an incorrect diagnosis initially for an uncommon disease.
And the real question is why?
The answer is of course because if it isn't fresh, and it doesn't get used, then humans tend to forget it over time. Book knowledge and experience are two different things. Lawyers are the most knowledgeable just out of law school, but an older attorney has much more experience.
And the real question is why?
The answer is of course because if it isn't fresh, and it doesn't get used, then humans tend to forget it over time. Book knowledge and experience are two different things. Lawyers are the most knowledgeable just out of law school, but an older attorney has much more experience.
It almost sounds like you're an apologist for unprepared/inexperienced pilot applicants, I hope that's not the case. Yes it takes effort to remain book sharp as total time builds, that's the price of entry.
I say crank up the washout rates and see who's serious.
Minimum standards are just that, if a guy can't get over the obscenely low bar that is 121 initial pilot training then they have no business in a 121 cockpit.
It's incumbent on every Captain to report lapses in technical performance in the cockpit, we simply can't allow the next Marvin Renslow to slip through the cracks. Mentoring by experienced Captains is an important part of career development, but gross incompetence on behalf of supposedly qualified applicants doesn't set the table for mentoring, it forces single pilot operations.
01-23-2017, 05:47 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,559
That might be YOUR nature. Mine is to succeed. I have been flying for 30 years, and know what is expected of me, and I do my best to achieve that standard. It's called personal drive and professionalism. Something you will not find in any book on aviation.
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