msprj2

Formal announcement coming Monday from Mitsubishi. So says Reuters.
Delayed till mid 2020.

dl773

"Is it possible you could put the 175-E2 in a deep freeze until things change, or would you just say ‘Let’s not go with that?’

It is just a matter of one or two years of shifting, but we will do it because we are in an advanced stage already. It has a dedicated wing, but everything else—the components, the avionics, the interior—are basically the same as the 190. And let’s not forget there will be a market outside the U.S., and a new entrant [the Mitsubishi Regional Jet] will offer an aircraft of the same size. So we will do it anyway, because we will be competing with a new manufacturer."

Embraer CEO Lays Out Commercial Aviation Battle Plan

More info in the article.

Things could always change, but sounds like there are no plans of canceling the 175E2.

Winston

Sounds like United may once again be in the market for a small narrow body, and already has pay scales for them.

Those -E2s or more CSeries may very well end up at mainline.

tom11011

Japan's first passenger jet delayed by another 2 years - Jan. 23, 2017

SilentLurker

With Trump in office, scope limiations of US labor groups. I believe the Asian Pacific trade policies will be dominated by the Chinese. Asian carriers will buy MRJ and send a signal to the west. Chinese carriers will most buy the MRJ.

Look at the Delays & cost addon's for our military fight jet programs (F-35, and many others over the years)... Billions in cost overruns & yrs of delays.

Shyt like this is common. Let's not insinuate the MRJ is bad aircraft platform. Competition is GOOD.

sailingfun

They need to charge their marketing approach to convince airline managements that the airframe can be operated at the mainline. Hoping for scope changes is a fools errand.

sailingfun

So Asian airlines will buy the MRJ over the Embraair from Brazil because Trump is president?

SilentLurker

Ooh no no no bad hombre.... We just don't have any concrete idea of the influence or impact his superfluously boasted "tough on Asia" trade policies has had or will have on the renewed (reopened) Japan-China's growing trade talks. China's growing Asia Pacific trade policies is shaping up nicely for Asian countries like Phillipines, Indonesia, Japan, and more, as "America 1st" spreads.

Aviation is very sensitive to political bravado. Most airlines have been weak to recongnize this except Delta (reasons they left A4A). Policies are huge impact on the U.S. aviation industry and our Alliances (One World, Star Alliance, SkyTeam). Including strength or a weak US Dollar. Airlines for America (A4A) is weak and broad. It needs to do a lot better job @ lobbying US Congress, and the Executive branch. PFC fee's and other fee's Airlines have to charge passengers, etc., needs to be removed. $4.50 airport facility charge (and increasing) has negative effects our bottom line.

I think its important for pilots to have a better understanding of globalization, banking, trade & immigration policies' of our executive and legislative branch on Airlines/Aviation and transporation as a whole. We focus on the pennies and lose sight of the whole dollar.

So it's bigger than Trump, I wish him success. I hope this shapes out good for American, Delta, United. I'm hoping things work out, for the sake of global stability & world-wide confidence in America.

trip

Sounds serious, "technical problems with the electronics". Seven years delayed, this is no F35, stick a fork in it.

Ordell

The problems emerged once the planes got to the US and Boeing engineers got a look at them. Talk about newbie mistakes on MHI's part.

https://leehamnews.com/2017/01/23/mr...ayed-mid-2020/

The aircraft development started with a Japanese team and this team did not have the expertise needed to understand all the implications of modern certification requirements.

As the Seattle development center and the Moses Lake test center came online, experienced engineers coming from, e.g. Boeing, got insight into the program. The Western workforce started finding oversights in the work of the Japanese team.

The first conclusion of the reviews these teams made was the test program was not realistic. It was based on how aircraft were tested and certified historically. You fly and measure and then decide if things are OK.

This is not how tests are done today. You prepare the test thoroughly, you simulate the test results in a ground environment and you only fly when the ground tests show that you can have a fault-free test flight. Test flights are made to verify results, not to explore developments.

As the international engineering team dived deeper into the design of the MRJ, it found more issues. The MHI press release states that the project needs “revisions of certain systems and electrical configurations on the aircraft to meet the latest requirements for certification.”