Top 3 Regional with #1 QOL
#11
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 755
I really wish we could post some schedules that you are able to make at PSA so you could really understand the benefit of the SAP.
Here is an example of what you can do from real world experience. Even the most junior line holder can do any of these things.
Example 1:
June 1-4 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 5 - 4 hour 1 day trip
June 6-7 - Off
June 8-11 - 21 hour 4 day trip
June 12-13 - 8 hour 2 day trip
June 14-16 - Off
June 17-20 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 21-30 - OFF
July 1-14 - OFF
July 16-18 - 22 hour 4 day trip
July 19 - Off
July 20-23 - 18 hour 4 day trip
July 24 Off
July 25 - 5 hour 1 day trip
July 26-30 - 21 hour 4 day trip
This would give you 73 hours in June and 66 hours in July. This is below minimum pay, and you would be paid below guarantee, but you would have 15 days off in June and 16 days off in July - with 24 days off in a row during the summer without using a vacation.
With the SAP, you can easily take the first 4-5 days of every month off and again the last 4-5 days of every month. That gives you at least an 8 day vacation every month - as long as you don't mind working hard during the middle of the month.
If you take a one week vacation, you can easily get 20+ days off in a month.
Here is an example of what you can do from real world experience. Even the most junior line holder can do any of these things.
Example 1:
June 1-4 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 5 - 4 hour 1 day trip
June 6-7 - Off
June 8-11 - 21 hour 4 day trip
June 12-13 - 8 hour 2 day trip
June 14-16 - Off
June 17-20 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 21-30 - OFF
July 1-14 - OFF
July 16-18 - 22 hour 4 day trip
July 19 - Off
July 20-23 - 18 hour 4 day trip
July 24 Off
July 25 - 5 hour 1 day trip
July 26-30 - 21 hour 4 day trip
This would give you 73 hours in June and 66 hours in July. This is below minimum pay, and you would be paid below guarantee, but you would have 15 days off in June and 16 days off in July - with 24 days off in a row during the summer without using a vacation.
With the SAP, you can easily take the first 4-5 days of every month off and again the last 4-5 days of every month. That gives you at least an 8 day vacation every month - as long as you don't mind working hard during the middle of the month.
If you take a one week vacation, you can easily get 20+ days off in a month.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,239
I'm in the background check phase at Envoy but the comments of terrible schedules at Envoy is becoming a concern to this candidate. Really sounds bad with 4/2 and not commutable and little concern from management to resolve the issue. Where do I go if I'm looking for a regional that is a top 3 pick in pay/benefits/flow plus #1 in QOL/scheduling? I want the ability to get time off when needed. I live in ATL.
PSA?
PSA?
#16
I really wish we could post some schedules that you are able to make at PSA so you could really understand the benefit of the SAP.
Here is an example of what you can do from real world experience. Even the most junior line holder can do any of these things.
Example 1:
June 1-4 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 5 - 4 hour 1 day trip
June 6-7 - Off
June 8-11 - 21 hour 4 day trip
June 12-13 - 8 hour 2 day trip
June 14-16 - Off
June 17-20 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 21-30 - OFF
July 1-14 - OFF
July 16-18 - 22 hour 4 day trip
July 19 - Off
July 20-23 - 18 hour 4 day trip
July 24 Off
July 25 - 5 hour 1 day trip
July 26-30 - 21 hour 4 day trip
This would give you 73 hours in June and 66 hours in July. This is below minimum pay, and you would be paid below guarantee, but you would have 15 days off in June and 16 days off in July - with 24 days off in a row during the summer without using a vacation.
With the SAP, you can easily take the first 4-5 days of every month off and again the last 4-5 days of every month. That gives you at least an 8 day vacation every month - as long as you don't mind working hard during the middle of the month.
If you take a one week vacation, you can easily get 20+ days off in a month.
Here is an example of what you can do from real world experience. Even the most junior line holder can do any of these things.
Example 1:
June 1-4 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 5 - 4 hour 1 day trip
June 6-7 - Off
June 8-11 - 21 hour 4 day trip
June 12-13 - 8 hour 2 day trip
June 14-16 - Off
June 17-20 - 20 hour 4 day trip
June 21-30 - OFF
July 1-14 - OFF
July 16-18 - 22 hour 4 day trip
July 19 - Off
July 20-23 - 18 hour 4 day trip
July 24 Off
July 25 - 5 hour 1 day trip
July 26-30 - 21 hour 4 day trip
This would give you 73 hours in June and 66 hours in July. This is below minimum pay, and you would be paid below guarantee, but you would have 15 days off in June and 16 days off in July - with 24 days off in a row during the summer without using a vacation.
With the SAP, you can easily take the first 4-5 days of every month off and again the last 4-5 days of every month. That gives you at least an 8 day vacation every month - as long as you don't mind working hard during the middle of the month.
If you take a one week vacation, you can easily get 20+ days off in a month.
#17
Living in base is a huge qol booster when you're on reserve, no doubt. But if you're a line holder, especially somewhere like PSA where you have complete schedule flexibility because of our SAP it becomes far less important. All of my trips in my November schedule are commutable on both ends and not one is worth less than 20 hours of credit and I have Thanksgiving off. And that was my original award. I used the SAP to get some overnights where I live and some days off I wanted. And I'm not particularly "senior" in base. I'm just your average round 1 FO.
#18
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 755
Flica is a software used for scheduling. Stands for Flight Crew Access, I believe. It is just a computer program/website.
SAP is Schedule Adjustment Period.
We happen to use Flica for our software. The SAP is managed through Flica, but it could be managed through any such program.
SAP is Schedule Adjustment Period.
We happen to use Flica for our software. The SAP is managed through Flica, but it could be managed through any such program.
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,648
Flica is a software used for scheduling. Stands for Flight Crew Access, I believe. It is just a computer program/website.
SAP is Schedule Adjustment Period.
We happen to use Flica for our software. The SAP is managed through Flica, but it could be managed through any such program.
SAP is Schedule Adjustment Period.
We happen to use Flica for our software. The SAP is managed through Flica, but it could be managed through any such program.
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