MKUltra

Serously... between people reading books, playing video black jack, reading the paper, writing their book, blog, or looking at their tie with their eyes closed. Who cares if the guy next to you has some light tunes paying in their ears as long as they are present and doing their job.

stringandrudder

Couldn't agree more, thanks for bringing some perspective to this thread.

Lawn

What's a belt case?

GoldSealCFI

It's commonly found on older, jaded men in order to keep their cellphones on their person because they refuse to put cellphones in their pockets. Mostly paired with douchedom such as in ear Bluetooth in order to give the appearance of being important but appearing impotent along with mom jeans and white tube socks with New Balance shoes.
These accessories are used to repel women.
Some common phrases used by these "seasoned aviation professionals" are.... "Something something something whipper snapper."
"Get off my lawn."
And my personal favorite ....."Back in my day, we never went to the bar to meet women, we went to the kitchen!"

trip

You should care, he's asking on a public forum if it's OK to violate FAR's and how best to do it.

Geardownflaps30

"LIKE"

(Clip on blackberry a close second.)

stringandrudder

Please correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the FAR "prohibit flightcrew members in operations under part 121 from using a personal wireless communications device or laptop computer for personal use while at their duty station on the flight deck while the aircraft is being operated."

Let's say the discussion changed from using my Bluetooth enabled music player to a plug and play CD player. The end result is still the same, no? Background classical music has proven to increase focus in high stress situations.

I am not in that part of the industry yet and I was asking for opinions from seasoned pilots, and to see what actually goes on. I wasn't going for the self incrimination factor or specifics. As an outsider, sometimes it's difficult to see which regulations matter and which ones are overlooked. From what I've experienced in the 135 world, this seems to happen more often then not. That doesn't make it the right thing to do, but it's a fact. This thread seems to have struck a nerve with a lot of people and frankly I'm surprised at the level of sass and attitude from many of the replies to a simple question.

3GRNDWN

Welcome to the world of Part 121, it's a lot different than 91 and 135.

Riverside

Part 121 bro. No one cares about what goes on in the part 135 world. If you start missing radio calls when you're with senior captains, all because you're listening to music. Your butt will find itself in the chief pilot office or doing a carpet dance at HQ.

stringandrudder

Well, we should care, right? Anyway, I think that's a different conversation entirely. Pilots miss radio calls for many reasons. I can't tell you a time I've missed a radio call because I was listening to music. However, I can tell you countless times those "senior captains," have been bickering about some useless company garbage or telling me about his "awesome schedule," etc. which caused me to miss a call simply because you can't turn down the volume of the other guy enough!

And again, this question wasn't in reference to critical phases of flight or during high workload situations. I was simply talking about cruise.