Alaskan Pilot looking to commute to regional?
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At Horizon you are seatlocked for 4 years on the Q400, you cannot switch over to the jet as an FO. Nothing will prevent you from upgrading on either the Q400 or E175, however you will need about 15 years of seniority before you could hold E175 captain. So that pretty much leaves just the Q400 for you to upgrade on. The E175 will be strictly reserved for super senior captains and new hires after March 2017.
Why wouldn't a new hire in a jet be able to upgrade quicker than 15 years? The experience on the 175 places that new hire jet FO ahead in line than a "un-seatlocked" Q FO for upgrade? What else am I missing other than the slow attrition of the captains? I don't know the demographic of them, and if we'll see a higher retire rate/attrition rate as the rest of the industry is really starting to see.
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Why wouldn't a new hire in a jet be able to upgrade quicker than 15 years? The experience on the 175 places that new hire jet FO ahead in line than a "un-seatlocked" Q FO for upgrade? What else am I missing other than the slow attrition of the captains? I don't know the demographic of them, and if we'll see a higher retire rate/attrition rate as the rest of the industry is really starting to see.
Jet FOs won't upgrade before Q400 FOs, that's not how the seat lock works. The 4 year seat lock prevents a q400 FO from bidding 175 FO and vice versa, but you're always able to upgrade when your seniority allows it. Since you won't have the seniority to be a jet captain your only choice will be to upgrade in the Q.
However, not only do we have a 4 year seat lock, but there's also a sub item in the contract that says if an FO bids FO on a different plane, they will be locked in that seat for an additional 2 years before being allowed to upgrade.
This makes the effective seat lock 6 years at horizon if you try to switch planes as an FO.
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