XJT fires Muslim FA for not serving alcohol
#51
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Share our values? The values Americans share is life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. We have had people from all walks of life immigrate to this country (Quakers, Mormons, Irish Catholics, Puritans, Muslims, Indians, Chinese and more). The greatest thing is their freedom to practice their religion or non-religion of choice without the fear of retribution.
I do agree that freedom of religion is what makes USA the best country this planet has known (among other things). But there are laws to contend with. What some consider religious practice, the legal system declares wrong. Tink cults where 13 and 14 year old girls are married off. So there is definatly a fine line here.
IMHO the FA was free to excercise her religious right by leaving a job where she felt she was required to do things she felt was against allah. Soooo why did she stay and make a fuss? Rediculous. Thats like me sueing my adult shop employer for making me sell rubber dix even though its against my "all natural" beliefs
#52
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I may be wrong on this, but I think mormonism started right here in the good old US of A. Now I think mormonism spread back to Europe, than some came to the US to go to zion. Just a thought.
I do agree that freedom of religion is what makes USA the best country this planet has known (among other things). But there are laws to contend with. What some consider religious practice, the legal system declares wrong. Tink cults where 13 and 14 year old girls are married off. So there is definatly a fine line here.
IMHO the FA was free to excercise her religious right by leaving a job where she felt she was required to do things she felt was against allah. Soooo why did she stay and make a fuss? Rediculous. Thats like me sueing my adult shop employer for making me sell rubber dix even though its against my "all natural" beliefs
I do agree that freedom of religion is what makes USA the best country this planet has known (among other things). But there are laws to contend with. What some consider religious practice, the legal system declares wrong. Tink cults where 13 and 14 year old girls are married off. So there is definatly a fine line here.
IMHO the FA was free to excercise her religious right by leaving a job where she felt she was required to do things she felt was against allah. Soooo why did she stay and make a fuss? Rediculous. Thats like me sueing my adult shop employer for making me sell rubber dix even though its against my "all natural" beliefs
The point of my post isn't that she has a case to sue, she doesn't. She took the job knowing fully well that she had to serve alcohol. A Muslim would never win a lawsuit against a bar. The point of the post is that saying, "they don't conform to American values," is, in itself, un-American. A person has every right in the world to not only express their religious beliefs even if they aren't part of the majority but other forms of expression. If a Mexican wants to come here, become a citizen then burn the American flag, he's welcome. If a Muslim wants to come here and boycott alcohol, she is more than welcome. If a Christian wants to go out and promote abstinence only education, he is more than welcome. Every one of those is "American." They may not be right, but they are most certainly not wrong. I think the most "American" people, by the way, are the ones who don't stand during the National Anthem, that turn their backs on governors, and the ones that burn the flag. They are exercising the greatest rights given under the US Constitution and while I may not agree with any or all of them, I am glad I have the right to do it if I needed or wanted to.
#53
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At one of my prior carriers, we had an FA on the 145 who was a Mennonite. The stricter version of this religion is anti-alcohol, and she was of that persuasion. (We had other Mennonite FAs who had no problem serving booze.)
Instead of suing the company or making a fuss with HR, she just simply did not offer alcohol to passengers. If requested, she would say "it wasn't available on this flight". Not sure how she survived the line checks, but when I left that airline, she was still flying.
Instead of suing the company or making a fuss with HR, she just simply did not offer alcohol to passengers. If requested, she would say "it wasn't available on this flight". Not sure how she survived the line checks, but when I left that airline, she was still flying.
#54
At one of my prior carriers, we had an FA on the 145 who was a Mennonite. The stricter version of this religion is anti-alcohol, and she was of that persuasion. (We had other Mennonite FAs who had no problem serving booze.)
Instead of suing the company or making a fuss with HR, she just simply did not offer alcohol to passengers. If requested, she would say "it wasn't available on this flight". Not sure how she survived the line checks, but when I left that airline, she was still flying.
Instead of suing the company or making a fuss with HR, she just simply did not offer alcohol to passengers. If requested, she would say "it wasn't available on this flight". Not sure how she survived the line checks, but when I left that airline, she was still flying.
I'm glad the Xjet FAs coworkers stopped enabling her by doing one of her REQUIRED duties. This whole case is a bunch if bs. Even if she gets her job back, she'll be a pariah...and rightfully so!
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